June 19, 2012

Heritage Foundation expert Steven Groves testified last week before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (link in PDF) at hearings about ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty.

Also testifying on the panel were former Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld and former Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte.

Watch a video of Groves’ testimony below, starting at minute 61, and be sure to watch his discussion with Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) at minute 67:

Is John Kerry right that we need to ratify the Law of the Sea Treaty?

Comments (16)

Kendall Svengalis - June 20, 2012

Senator Risch’s point is well taken. If the U.S. Senate ratifiies this treaty, it opens itself up to, at the very least, future challenges to our national sovereignty in the environmental realm. Although the U.S. MAY not be subject to various international environmental treaties at the present time, it may become subject to international control were we to ratify environmental treaties in the future. This Treaty establishes an apparatus for putting our sovereignty at risk as individual treaties are or agreements are negotiated and approived in the future under radical administrations such as the present one.
This Treaty is a dangerous first step in the loss of U.S. sovereignty in a hostile world in which other nation’s would presume to tap our wealth and resources through instruments of international redistributionist policy through the United Nations. We have already seen these attempts made in the form of the toxic U.N. Agenda 21.

Patrick Guire - June 20, 2012

If ratifying the Law of the Sea Treaty would diminish our position for fair competition in uses of the sea, then we should continue to refrain from accepting this encumbrance.

bob Langenbach - June 20, 2012

When has John Kerry been right about anything?????

Phil Davis - June 20, 2012

John Kerry is completely wrong because the Deep Sea Bed Hard Mineral Resource Act protects U.S. drilling in deep sea beds. Senator Kerry is pushing for the loss of American sovereignty via LOST. The proposed treaty with LOST is a canard for the further destruction of the American way of life by outside entities. A complete ideological push for world redistribution of American wealth! It is telling just how deep radical ideologues of Marxist Congressmen and women have burrowed in power positions of the peoples government. They (Marxists) are more than willing to make the U.S. a third world nation, allowing foreign nations to drain the life out of this great country like a mosquito.

Mary Agnes Gilbert - June 20, 2012

No to Law of the Sea or any other treaties.

John Szeker - June 20, 2012

John who? This guy has never been right about anything – including his wartime exploits in VietNam – the US SHOULD NOT ratify this, or any other treaty that the UN ever comes up with – all the UN is trying to do is bring our country down to the level of the 3rd and 4th world countries out there – and that is exactly what Obama is trying to do, and if he is re-elected that is exactly what will happen to us.

Richard Luth - June 20, 2012

John Kerry is a total fairlure why would we want that.

Jane Hamman - June 20, 2012

John Kerry is dead wrong, again. The U.S. Senate needs to reject this treaty. Then it’s time to reduce our United Nations funding and prepare to oppose the next four or five really bad treaties arising from their corrupt practices and vengeful goals.

Kenny Sexton - June 20, 2012

It will be something else they can blame George Bush for. I’m against it.

Al Pori - June 21, 2012

The worst decision.

Carl York - June 21, 2012

Thanks for filming the hearing, very educational and fact based. Steven has a great deal of poise and candor. Steven was able to disgrace Kerry by bringing out the fact that Kerry had created a hypothetical scenario for Groves to defend. By Kerry dening that he made up a hypothetical situation …then getting up on his hind legs and reinforcing his denial by stating ” it is not hypothetical it is actual according to the book of Kerry.” He was seen as impetuous and a liar,…I feel certain… by all Committee members and Witnesses . Not counting those in the Peanut Gallery who were nodding off .
Well as Rumsfelt Quoted Thatcher by repeating her sentiments to him,
“Donald you know how I feel about “Nationalization . and Donald this is nothing more than International Nationalization of over 2/3 of the Earths surface” .
end Quote.
Great drama . Reagans team caught the concensus issue and worked a solution by gaining the US. permanent seats on both the Legal council and the committee of 32.
By using the Ben Franklin method of drawing a line down the middle of a page ,..then writing down each positive point on the left and each negative point on the right. I found that the 1982 plan was more negative but the 1994 revised plan had at least 10 positive aspects and only 3 or maybe 4 negative points. Thks to Reagan.
Positive points:
1. 161 countries have signed it over 30 yr. period.
2. 17 countries have approved claims with 5 pending,
3. American Exploration companies are in favor.
4. 5 consecutive Sec of State (all republicans) in favor.
5. Concenus blocking power of U.S. if a member.
6.Uncontestable legal claim to Sea Bed (prop.)Rights .
7. Zero royalties on imports of production permanently.
8. Zero royalties on exports for five years .
9. Sixth year 1% .easing up to 7% cap by 12th year.
10. One Year back out clause if dissatisfied w/treaty.
11. Shipping passage and naval strength benefits.

Downside (negative aspects) of Exceeding to LOST
1. World Organization gains power and income.
2. Loss of Soverenty, to a degree. temp. acceptable.
3. Potential of being taken to trial across the Seas .
4. Invitation to adverse judgments.
5. Going against the Founders teachings.

That said, ” If You can’t stop Em infiltrate Em”
You have negotiated the U.S. into an important position with a back door to exit from.
One more final negotiation could relieve one serious shortcoming of the Treaty…………….
Set aside a portion of the royalties in a reserve account to be used in the event of an ecological disaster such as the BP spill. This is critical for several obvious reasons.
!. Common sense tells us that a mistake can be expensive to correct when it takes place in deep waters.
2. Why sue each other when there could soon be funds set aside to clean up Boo Boo’s . with a cash Insurance fund planned out in advance.
3. Watchdog the Jamica Bank account to insure the poorer developing nations receive the remander of the royalties. void of graft and corruption…….
That’s all I took away from your valient efforts to lead this country in the right direction, THANKS HERITAGE.
Now move on to another committee, film the meetings, let us watch it and help us to understand more about how to help you all at Heritage Foundation and Heritage Action. God Bless You All and America.too. “Swing Away”.
Carl York.Notary/Citizen

Joyce - June 21, 2012

LOST should never be ratified.It puts our sovereignty at risk. Why would we willing give up rights to minerals and oil off of our shores. The US should get out of the UN, they hate us and our way of life.

Robert McWain - June 21, 2012

He’s made Millions,married millions and will probably make millions more if this TREATY is adopted.Tell Kerry to go fly a KITE.

patsy davidson - June 21, 2012

no he is not right i dont ever think he was.

WERNERKEIL - June 21, 2012

Sen. Kerry is way out in some socialist state–I sim[ply cannot trust anybody who uses his job to benefit them financially.That person is morraly corrupt & the reason is him & his wife alledgely used insider trading to the tune of $7 million dollars as stated in P,Schweitzer book throw them all out.

Steven Rankens - June 26, 2012

John Kerry is just like the treaty, “LOST”. The United States should never sign away our sovereignty and fund countries who flat out hate the the United States, and President Obama should not pander to the United Nations directives, he has already strengthened our enemies and weakened our allies. DO NOT RATIFY THIS TREATY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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