July 12, 2012

The House voted yesterday to repeal Obamacare. While it is a move in the right direction, the repeal bill now goes to the liberal-controlled Senate for consideration, where it faces an uphill battle.

Heritage Foundation expert Brian Darling explains how conservatives can force a Senate vote on the Repeal of Obamacare Act:

A Senator can use Rule 14 of the Senate’s rules to object to a second reading of the bill. This objection would place the House-passed Obamacare repeal bill in a position for debate on a motion to proceed to the bill and a roll-call vote on whether the Senate should consider the measure.

If conservatives fumble the ball and no Senator objects to the second reading, then conservatives will have lost an opportunity for a vote. Failure to object using the Senate’s rules sends the bill to the black hole of a Senate Committee controlled by liberals. The repeal of Obamacare legislation would not be heard from again this Congress.

If the bill passes these procedural hurdles, though,  the prospects for Repeal of Obamacare Act are stronger. Here’s one way it could play out:

If four Democrats defect and sign on to the idea of a full repeal of Obamacare, all of a sudden there are enough votes to pass the bill. If the supporters of H.R. 6079 can get to a simple majority of support, the only way liberals could prevent passage of the bill by a simple majority would be to engage in a filibuster of the bill.

Are you confident in the conservative Senators’ ability to force a vote in the Senate?

Comments (55)

Linda Gommel - July 12, 2012

It would do my heart good to see members of the Senate exercise that much charater, courage, and commitment. However, I think pigs will fly before they take such action.

Michael McGowan - July 12, 2012

Nope

Mary Jane Casablanca - July 12, 2012

No, I am not confidemt that Senate Conservatives can bring it to the floor for a vote, because Harry Reid simply won’t allow it to happen. That’s why we need to elect a Senate majority in November!

Raymond Andrade - July 12, 2012

This is why I’ve been saying we need to vote out incumbant Republicans, starting with the speaker!

Ann Macomber - July 12, 2012

I’d like to believe that at least 4 conservative senators have read this plan and would consider it. Let’s move it on through the channels!

Frederick N. Evans - July 12, 2012

It SHOULD happen, but I am not at all confident that it will. There is entirely too much politics as usual in the Senate, and few put Country ahead of Party. I would be happy to be surprised.

Darin Alvord - July 12, 2012

I am confident of conservatives in this matter, but not of Republicans. There are fewer conservative Senators than there are Republicans, and I do not believe that ANY Democrat will act with conservatives unless there is a demonstrable threat to their reelection, which may not be during this cycle. That limits the focus of the campaign that must be waged. It is to be waged on Liberal (so-called Moderate) Republicans and incumbent Democrats that are at risk this election. Success there may bring this to a vote.

Herbert - July 12, 2012

Unless the numbers change in the senate in favour of the republicans, I do not believe they will be able to repeal any of the present health care law. Not for the first time, but we have been sold out by the legislative court. Sorry.

Arlin R. Johnson, Jr. - July 12, 2012

My earnest hope, prayer, desire and urgent request is that the entire Obamacare bill be relegated to the trash bin. Then carefully select some honest folks who fully understand the health care needs of the young, middle aged, and older folks. Then start putting together (in the light of day) a health care plan for america’s that will accommodate health care needs of the present and future and will not increase the usa deficit. All done with a balanced buddget!

Lee - July 12, 2012

I am definitely NOT Confident in the conservative Senators’ ability to force a vote in the Senate!

Jean A Miller - July 12, 2012

I am truly discouraged by Republican lawmakers. Every other night I see that Pelosi is multiple media outlets rebuking the Republican plans (which are not clear). Where is Boehner, Cantor, etc? If the they want to repeal ACA, they need to provide their alternatives to the most desired parts of the ACA. These people are very poor communicators.

Rodney Huff - July 12, 2012

There is no confidence left in the senate to do anything with this law. The house vote proved nothing; it was election year showmanship at it’s worst. This will get buried so deeply in the senate committee it will not see the light of day, ever. We have allowed this freedom killing legislation to pass because we collectively failed to pay attention to what happened in 2006 when the liberals took control of congress. With RINO allies, they sacrificed our nation to the point of failure and that, folks, is where we are today.

Andrew B Ellis - July 12, 2012

I just hope we can get enough Democrats to vote for repealing the health care act and that it can go to an over ride or veto by the president and that the Republicans in the House can start writing up a simpler health care act that benefits the economy the people and takes government out of running the healthcare program and puts it back in the hands of the people being disabled myself from birth I would like to see it easier for people with disabilities to get healthcare sincerely yours Andrew Ellis

Jim Poythress - July 12, 2012

The Republican leadership lacks the intestinal fortitude to force anything. They are too busy playing “McCainism,” you know, negotiating with themselves. What the Republican leadership fails to realize is that Socialists do not negotiate, they take.

John Barlow - July 12, 2012

yea please forward this to all the senators to remind them of the procedure and of their duty to us their constituents. Because we will truly remember them in November.

Nancy - July 12, 2012

We are not at all confidant of the motives being good in a high percentage of our government officials, but our hope is in God and we’ll keep it right there. We’re thankful for all you and other groups are doing, but there’s a high percentage of those we see in “Walmart” who we suspect go home to watch the slanted news and go to sleep with slanted views. So be it, we’ll get what we deserve.

Kay Czach - July 12, 2012

Our Republicans have “snatched defeat from the jaws of victory” so many times that, I’m sorry to say, I do not have a great deal of confidence in their skills or drive. This is so important and I pray I’m wrong.

Chris Sherry - July 12, 2012

Since the House realizes the unconstitutionality of this obamacare bill! Then somethis is going right. How is it that if I can’t and don’t have insurance I have to pay a tax where another who can afford and has insurance does not pay a tax? This is not a tax but a penalty! How am I to pay this “PENALTY” when I can not afford the insurance? Want affordable insurance make the market competitive! Allow agencies compete across borders! The rates will drop quickly!

Wes Potts - July 12, 2012

There are four or five Democrat Senators that are up for re-election in November who happen to be from States that oppose Obamacare. Since they would likely go along with Republicans and vote to repeal Obamacare in order to get re-elected Harry Reid won’t allow the bill to come to the floor for a vote.

Tom S - July 12, 2012

Unfortunately, no. The Republicans in the Senate are no match for Harry Reid.

Rita Sibley - July 12, 2012

Your stradegy sounds good & I’d love to see it happen, but I’m afraid of our side dropping the ball again as they have so many times through the years. You must admit that many of our conservative Washington legislators do not really remember “Middle America” that sent them to to save our freedom and our system of Gov’t. that our Founders intended. The name of the game in D.C continues to be expand their personal wealth and get re-elected term after term. Frankly. if “term limits” fails to become a reality in the near future and Gov’t continues as it has for the last 50 years, kiss our country goodby!

Don Sibley - July 12, 2012

I agree with the above brillant women

Judy Gitchel - July 12, 2012

No, but one Democratic senator, Herb Kohl, might be willing to vote for repeal. He is retiring and we in Wisconsin are trying hard to replace him with a conservative.

Jim Cipa - July 12, 2012

It would do them good, politicaly, if they do. People admire courage, character, and commitment. They would gain respect, something the Senate has been short of for a long time now.

Judith Weiss - July 12, 2012

Where is the Wizard of OZ when we need him to pass out that badge of Courage to our Republican Senators?

David E. Wilde - July 12, 2012

I have absolutely no confidence in the Senate as it is currently comprised. Even if you could get the four Liberals, you still have the RINOs. And of course they can now point to the Supreme(?) Court’s decision for their wishy-washy votes. Our only hope is to elect solid majorities in both houses in November, along with the Presidency.

Nelson Whipple - July 12, 2012

Actually, NO! I am hopeful and prayerful but there is an excess of weak (Establishment) Republicans in the Senate. There are maybe 4 or 5 of them who will hesitate to toe the line and vote the abominable health bill down.

Paula Piltz - July 12, 2012

To be honest, I don’t think the Senators on either side know all of the Senate rules! The only thing they are really good at is blaming each other instead of trying to solve the mess that this country is in. I hope Heritage is “schooling” our “weak kneed” Conservatives! If Obamacare was ruled as a tax & all taxation bills must originate in the House (this did not), then why aren’t they persuing this to get it shut down?

Shari Larson - July 12, 2012

I have little faith in Sen. Mitch McConnell who recently questioned if Obamacare could be repealed. The ball is in his court. Is he afraid to play or is the repeal of Obamacare not his priority?

Annette M Bohrer - July 12, 2012

I am praying that our senators WILL defeat this bill.
Join me? “Where two or three are gathered together,
(in prayer-even in spirit I believe) there I AM, in the midst of them.” Just think, if the prayer of two or three
can be so power4ful, what the prayer of many can do.
And if the answer is NO at this time…keep asking, seeking, knocking with me. If the answer is YES then,
a thank You and you , and you… is in order.

mukfire - July 13, 2012

Absolutely this is possible! Why? Because Republicans will remember how Obamacare was shoved down our throats initially (on a purely partisan vote + the Cornhusker kickback) and so will not flinch at using the same hardball tactics now!

john miller - July 13, 2012

Frankly I find it hard to imagine them succeeding, but I am praying they will. What concerns me are the “Rhinos”, but hopefully the lesson of Lugar in Indiana will open some eyes.

Michael Lysek - July 13, 2012

It is unlikely that such a thing would happen. All of the senate, house, president, and supreme court have taken an oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States, but only do so if it gets votes or being liked in DC.

Sharon Franzen - July 13, 2012

It may be possible to get a simple majority in the Senate, but Harry Reid would never allow it. There must be a way around it. After all, Obama goes around them all the time.

Jack - July 13, 2012

Unfortunately, I believe that the Senate does not currently have enough members with courage and backbone to follow through on HR 6079. I believe that we’ll need a Conservative Majority in the Senate before we can expect to see positive results. Not just a Republican majority, but a real Conservative majority. We desperately need God fearing Statesmen with respect for, and a desire to protect the Constitution and the American people from tyrants.

Charles Stockham - July 13, 2012

I’m confident in conservatives now more so because the momentum is there. What must become the focus to get Dems onboard is to constantly highlight the reality that the reasons this bill was passed in the first place, are now being shown to be false. It will not cover everyone, it will not controll costs, it is the largest tax in the history of the world, etc. etc. Virtually nothing in it is truly beneficial. The Dems need to be forced over and over to try to validate all of the falsehoods in this bill.

Charles Hoffman - July 13, 2012

No

Rick Caston - July 13, 2012

No. Why? McConnell. Need I say more?

Fred - July 13, 2012

I don’t believe the conservatives have enough support in the Senate to repeal Obamacare. Even if they did, the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, wouldn’t allow it to come up for a vote. He has stonewalled the budget process for over three years so why would anyone think that he would allow a vote on Obamacare.

GILBERT GERHARD - July 13, 2012

Not sure. It depends on how guts Mc Caskill, nelson , et al have to vote for repeal. They seem to be inclined to do so in light of their constuents objection to the Act.

Gilbert Gerhard

J. Marshall Saye - July 13, 2012

The Republican Senators might have the “ability to force the vote BUT do they have the backbone or fortitude. Unfortunately, I think not.

James W. Smith - July 13, 2012

Where are our republicans in the Senate? It appears they do not have the conviction to force a vote. Surely there is a way for them to make Harry Reid bring it to a vote. This leads me to suspect that the Republican Senators, not the conservative Senators, really don’t want to rock the boat and really want Obama Care to stay. Someone needs to speak louder and get to message out to the media that Reid is a major road block to all House passed bills that can help this country. I do not buy this “Harry Reid simply want allow it to happen” excuse. No single person has that much power.

Steven Rankens - July 13, 2012

It will never get to the vote because of the Democratic majority in the Senate. If Harry “hypocratic” Reid has not put together a budget in the last three years, what make’s us think that they will vote to repeal “Tax-macare”. Until a conservative, republican majority is elected into the Senate,
expect the same feet dragging as before! Hang tough conservatives, the day of reckoning is coming to the Democrats.

mary - July 13, 2012

how come harry reid can refuse to bring bill that are send to him from the senate?

Daniel Araujo - July 13, 2012

Conservative and Independent voters have a great opportunity this November to elect a Republican majority in both houses of Congress. Unfortunately, some Republican incumbents are as problematic as their Democrat collegues. The President has proven to me that his goal for America is to see America divided and brought down.

William Thomas - July 13, 2012

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

‘Nuff said.

William Thomas - July 13, 2012

“HaHa you fool. You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is: never get involved in a land war in Asia. But only slightly less well known is this: Never go against a Sicillian when death is on the line!” Vizzini, The Princess Bride

Rick Blackford - July 13, 2012

Although I would love to see this happen, it will not come from my two CA senators.

Marie Barney - July 13, 2012

I am afraid our Senate will hem and haw until after election time, so they will not have to make a public commitment on this repeal.
I am so pleased that our House at least took the vote and how it came out.
Am praying the Senate stops being a “do nothing” body and stands up for this repeal.

Diane Winston - July 13, 2012

I wish I could confidently say yes, but except for Senator DeMint and a few others I doubt it. And for the life of me I can’t understand why there is not the fervent desire to be a man or woman of courage and do the right thing.

Elaine Chandler - July 13, 2012

With plenty of backbone they could pull it off; it has been done…I would be delighted if they actually have the intestinal fortitude to do what is necessary and what they should do!

James Moseley - July 14, 2012

Considering this spineless bunch can approve the appointment of the Judicial traitor who sided with the liberals to declare the act Constitutional, how could anyone expect them to repeal it in the Senate. Let’s face it, they’re all either a bunch of COWARDS or they are too fond of their benefits they inherit from their positions.

Roger D Evans Sr - July 15, 2012

get rid of all who oppose to repealing Obama Care which is now a tax, a huge tax never seen by the world. vote all out of office, plain and simmple.

William M Snedden Sr. - July 16, 2012

No, I am not confident of the Senate doing anything that would lead to a repeal of Obamacare. Too much politics working against too little concern for the American people!
I think that stinks! It galls me no end that ANY bill that passed in the house should not be debated and voted on in the Senate. This looks like the few rule the many!

Fran - July 18, 2012

I am not confident that Conservatives can get this done. I sure hope that I am wrong!

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