December 4, 2012

John Boehner

On initial examination, the House Republicans’ counter-offer to address the looming “fiscal cliff” tax hikes and spending cuts “appears little more than categorical, preemptive capitulation,” Heritage Foundation experts Alison Fraser and J.D. Foster argue.

First, the proposal fails to address the real source of our nation’s fiscal crisis: massive overspending, especially on rapidly-expanding entitlement programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

“Beyond disappointing, the House Republican counteroffer appears at best to suggest incremental tweaks to these programs,” Fraser and Foster write. “Without real entitlement reform—not just spending cuts—we will never fix the underlying problem.”

Second, the program includes:

An anti-tax reform program of reductions in the availability of certain deductions and exemptions—without offsetting reductions in rates. While preferable in general to raising tax rates, this proposal largely dooms future efforts at tax reform based on the sound principle of broadening the tax base to lower the rates. Instead, this proposal would broaden the base, not to lower rates, but to raise revenues. So much for improved economic growth.

While the GOP plan does profess its continued support for the principled budget the House passed this year, Fraser and Foster deem it “a dud. It is utterly unacceptable. It is bad policy, bad economics, and, if we may say so, highly questionable as a negotiating tactic.”

Tell us in the comments: What do you think of the Republican fiscal cliff proposal?

Comments (321)

Kristine Cevasco - December 4, 2012

The republicans are once again caving!!! What’s WRONG with them? We do not have a revenue problem we have a SPENDING problem. Until they get through their heads, we are going to become Greece.

Lee Andreas - December 4, 2012

How do we get rid of Boehner? It is time for him to go!

Fred Posey - December 4, 2012

I am a senior and have said from the beginning you can not trust the President or the Democrats. No matter what you try to do to be reasonable, they are like most union bosses, they will not be reasonable in return. Stand on the conservative principles and fight with all you can. Quit trying to eat the whole elephant. Take it a bite at a time. Pass approriation bills that protect the poor and middle class and make the Democrats respond. Use some of the capital from those well able and start your own press pressure with flooding the airwaves with the truth, with sound fiscal arguement, and with down to earth easily understood examples of what really is happening with big government. Expose the corruption of power that exist in Washington D.C. and how it is harming America. Return to the guts that our forefathers had to fight for what is right.

Sam Bradshaw - December 4, 2012

I expected Boehner to “cave in”. I am not surprised, but I am highly disappointed. I think it is bad policy, bad economics and is not even worth considering and should be discarded.

Jon Alexander - December 4, 2012

Boehner’s proposal is very RINO like…..a complete surrender to the Marxist in the White House. We need a viable third party…..the Republicans have pooped in their nest almost as bad as the democraps.

Houston W. Rice - December 4, 2012

Obama is being very conscientious about demanding that the rich (which includes most small businesses) pay their fair share, and save the middle class. He should insist that the rich pay all their earnings in taxes. That would cover Government spending for several months. The rich don’t need the money. They already have more than their fair share. The rich, doctors included, should all retire anyway, and stop exploiting the working class. Workers who work for private companies should join unions and go on strike, or else go to work for the government. Either way, they wouldn’t have to work. The worst that can happen when business leaders retire, and private companies close, is that workers go on welfare, and then have the standard of living of America’s poor, which is higher than that of the average middle class European, and they wouldn’t be exploited doing a mind numbing job for some greedy capitalist. The Socialist utopia is just around the corner if Obama gets the public support he needs, and remains steadfast against lies and threats from the Republicans. We can import Chinese to do all the work, and the Government can print all the money needed to pay them, and then take it all back in taxes. It can’t fail. It’s the genius of Progressive leadership.

Catharine - December 4, 2012

I am ready to leave the Republican party. Why can’t they stand up to the spending?

Norm Halderson - December 4, 2012

Quite frankly the Republican Leadership Is no better than the Democratic Leadership when it comes to controlling spending!

Thomas - December 4, 2012

I think Speaker Boehner’s proposal stinks. Cut the spending period. There’s plenty of revenue to support the necessary functions of government.

Dennis Palmer - December 4, 2012

This is why I am no longer a republican. I am a conservative independent. I am tired of voting republican and they do the same exact things as the democrats. Bohnher (sp) should resign and hand the gavel to someone who has the courage and the principals to fight for the American people. I am tired of go along to get along politicians that make all kinds of promises when they want our vote but as soon as they are elected those promises are long forgotten. I am 69 yrs. old and stil working very hard, I am tired of supporting those who can work but won’t. Enough is enough, no tax increases, CUT spending NOW.

Michael Hartman - December 4, 2012

Fraser & Foster are quite correct! Frankly, I am disgusted with the House leadership. Is there any elected representative in a leadership position that has the courage to stand for fiscal sanity, just this once!

Richard Kellar - December 4, 2012

Its no brainer, we got to get rid of Boehner. He is just as much of a problem as Reid

Jerry White - December 4, 2012

The Republicans should stop worrying about the next election and do what is right. Obama wants to take the country down so let him. Let the country know what you stand for so they can see there is a party who cares about this country and its people. The House holds the purse strings. Use them to control excessive Executive control and spending. Use the money to force the President and the Senate to significantly reduce spending. Otherwise, I, as well as many conservative voters, will vote you out of office before you add to the destruction of our country and our way of life.

Chris Rogenski - December 4, 2012

Why are the Republicans caving? It’s apparent the Obama administration wants the current tax rates to expire and claim that taxes were not raised (the rates simply returned to what they were in accordance with the law). And the Dems are poised to blame the Republicans for it all!!!

Larry Knight - December 4, 2012

The Republican proposal stinks!!!! It does not do anything to solve the fiscal problems or to roll back an overbearing, overreaching national government. How do we get rid of Boehner and McConnell. I think this will be the effective end of the Republican Party. They don’t stand for anything and they don’t have the courage to fight for anything. They can’t even muster the courage to speak out against the most corrupt administration in modern history and can’t beat the worst president in living memory (I’m 72 years old and can remember quite a few.). So why send them money or bother to go out and vote for them?????

Michael Brown - December 4, 2012

Republican Legislators should not agree to any tax increases and should demand cuts in spending!

John H. Johnson - December 4, 2012

We should cut the Federal workforce by 5% – and actually cut the budgets for the Depts. of Transportation, Labor, Energy, Education, EPA, and Commerce. We should cut the budget allocation to Obamacare – set up means testing for Medicare and Social Security. Stop listenubg to Buffett!

JH Johnson

Kathryn Miller - December 4, 2012

I am almost physically sick at what is happening. John Boehner is removing the people who would have the ability to put us on a logical path-the Tea Party Conservatives. He is not addressing the real problem in any way but is going along with Obama’s desire for more revenue to spend on Obama’s whims. It is appalling and the America of our Founding Fathers is becoming just a spec in the rear-view mirror.

Daniel Burke - December 4, 2012

Speaker Boehner is obviously incapable of meeting the obligations of his position as it relates to curbing the insane spending and taxation of the Obama administration. The GOP must stand firm, stand against all these Obama taxes, and remove Boehner as Speaker.

Michael Brown - December 4, 2012

I am a member of the REC in Charlotte County Florida and have lost faith in the Republican Party. I gues I am too conservative for today’s Republican Party, but I have no place to go.

John Barada - December 4, 2012

The conservative Republican party no longer exists! Period! It is now the “liberal lite” party. This proposal is an outrage, a surrender to the Democrats, and some of the worst “negotiating” I have ever witnessed. Boehner and the old line republicans need to go. True conservative moral and fiscal values are being compromised to the destruction of this country. Leadership does not exist, it appears, only politicians looking for reelection – taking care of the special interests – total fiscal irresponsibility – on BOTH SIDES!

Linda Hobden - December 4, 2012

It’s time conservatives leave the Republican Party because it is plain they have left us. Both parties are taking this country to the left. Both consistently grow the government. Both seem addicted to “earmarks”. Neither party is focusing on the clear issues at stake. Both parties continue to “patch” the problems instead of address them. If a vibrant, 3rd party isn’t created soon we can expect to see the same. We need leaders. We need a party that goes on the offense – can’t win a game or a culture always playing defense. We need to quit utilizing the tv networks and newspapers and start speaking directly to the public via fb, twitter, using news outlets like Drudge. If our tactics don’t change, neither will the results.

Darin Alvord - December 4, 2012

We have been betrayed by both political parties for their own power’s sake. Republicans who forsake their key principals of fiscal conservatism and limited government have double-crossed those who have given them the majority in the House; the place of fiscal control. Deficits come only by overspending and never by under-collection. It is a budget-defined truism. Whose heads should roll for their having been no budget passed in over three years? One of only two outcomes will happen; demise or revolt.

Fedup - December 4, 2012

You wouldn’t publish what I think!

Jack Carlson - December 4, 2012

Obama wants to go the cliff.
A crisis is to good to waste.
So let it happen.
Then hold firm for him to capitulate

Jose - December 4, 2012

Voted Republican since Nixon. After RR we have been told to just vote for ruling class candidates and they will fix everything. It (everything) has gotten worse. I am done with the Republican Party. Just as bad in Tn.

Alan Ernst - December 4, 2012

I agree with Lee, it is time for Republicans to replace Boehner. On Fox Sunday, he firmly said that he would deal with the debt; … and this is what you get.
I also agree with Fred … only way for Republicans to politically win on some of this is to “take it a bite at a time.” Gingrich suggested this approach the other day too. So, for example, since both parties agree that the Bush tax rates should remain for about 98% of Americans … great … let’s pass that now. The President has said that he would sign that immediately.

Robert - December 4, 2012

This man and his peers need some common sense slapped into their heads. They cannot keep caving on these issues and purging the real conservatives from key committees. How do we get rid of this guy?

Mike Lueken - December 4, 2012

It is exactly the kind of business as usual approach I thought they would put forth. Until we have elected officials sacrificing to serve they will alway do what is in their collective bet interests. Country first should be the mantra.

Dave - December 4, 2012

As always, John Boehner is quick to run up the White Flag of Surrender. Whether you talk about tax ior revenue increases is semantics. In the end, taxpayers end up with less money in their pockets. Boehner needs to take a stand for conservative principles but he lacks the intestinal fortitude to do it. He has got to be one of the weakest Speakers ever. He also is a classic RINO having long forgotten the principles the Republican Party held dear. Of course, the party over the years as become the Democratic lite party. It’s despicable. I did not and will not support the Republican Party with my money until they get their act together. Boehner and the rest of the party leadership are weak kneed and an utter embarassment.

dean - December 4, 2012

Good day Sir , we must tighten our belts absolutley
not because of ANY NEW SPENDING , REDUCE SPENDING REDUCE SPENDING ,I am willing to give up some things but NOT GIVE OUT ANY MORE FREEBIES! thx Dean Olsen

Peter Hopkins - December 4, 2012

Abject surrender to tax and spend. Boehner successfully snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. He should reregister as a Democrat. What a disgusting display of cowardice!

Ben Jeffrey - December 4, 2012

I am disgusted but not surprised. Why the Republicans don’t draw a line in the sand and say enough displays their lack of principles. I have not heard of any Republican bring up and push the fact that the taxes are already substantially increasing under Obama care. It is multiple parallel increases that are being proposed by the Democrats – not the small addition as verbalized by Obama.
I fear for the survival our Republic.

Jude Richardson - December 4, 2012

Groundhog Day: Seen it before. GOP gets on its knees and begs and punishes those T baggers that refuse to beg. Then Obama laughs and covers our grave. Destined to disappear until the year 2024 when Hill finishes her 2nd term.
By then I’ll be dead too.

Randall Beck - December 4, 2012

Boehner obviously does not have conservative principles. Why is he so afraid of espousing and enunciating true conservatism? Has he forgot Ronald Reagan already? What would be wrong with him saying “Yes, we are for not increasing taxes on the rich, as well as the middle class and the poor. We stand for all Americans, not just 52%, which is clearly what President Obama is advocating. He is attempting to drive a wedge between Americans of different wage earning levels. We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.”

Ronald Kohls - December 4, 2012

Maybe we should let all of the tax rates expire. For years the Democrats have been claiming that President Bush’s tax rates were only for the rich. If we let them expire maybe America will wake up and realize that the Democrats think everyone is rich who pay any type of tax. By giving in we only make the problem worse.

Renee Miller - December 4, 2012

Until we can establish a major, alternative media our message will never get out. As seen in the last election cycle, GOP & conservatives were misquoted or edited with the intention of making them sound incompetent, mean-spirited and selfish. Or they were just ignored, receiving no press coverage.

Cutting any “deals” with Democrats never ends well. It’s always the old bait and switch. Remember Reagan and the amnesty for illegals? Somehow the 12 million aliens were made legal but that fence never got built. Same with Bush41, I believe, who agreed to tax hikes in exchange for spending cuts. Never happened.

The GOP is damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Make the deal Obama wants and they’ve sold out. Stick to their principles and they’ll be painted as evil and cruel, with statements archived for the next election soundbites.

Yes, indeedy . . .ordinary citizens with massive debt are always counseled to CUT.THE.SPENDING and work out a plan to pay their debts. Future spending is limited to necessary items only. Oh, yeah, they’re also told to cut up the ole credit cards and pay cash. Why this simple solution can’t be offered up is a mystery.

myron rodger - December 4, 2012

How long have we worked without a budget? NO negotiations AT ALL until they propose a budget! Period!

Tom Kerr - December 4, 2012

Washington D. C is a mess of no good, do nothing flakes. They all take their $ and their retirement and do nothing. Don’t even have the courage ot take on Obama and his minions from the underworld. No wonder their likability is near zero. They do not represent we the people, they represent they the Washington establishment. We just pay for their toys & trips. One day they will not have us cause we will be broke; then they will flounder and drown in their own cesspool. Nimrods all!!!!!

mike parmelee - December 4, 2012

The Republicans have obviously thrown in the towel without admitting it. Either stand and fight for what’s right or surrender unconditionally and let Obama and the Dems take complete credit for the resulting mess. Maybe when voters figure out that the Dem’s plan has ruined the economy further than it already is they will grow a brain. And on the other hand, if they don’t, and just want more free stuff, God help us, we are doomed as a nation.

jgal - December 4, 2012

The FairTax Plan is the only good method of tax reform. It can be structured to take care of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. What other plan can do all of that?

Mary Ann Bageac - December 4, 2012

This is not necessarily caving so much as a reality check in an effort to not just allow the sequestration to move forward without at least the appearance of attempting some form of negotiation. Republicans need to learn how to win elections if they want to be in a position where they don’t have to negotiate from a position of weakness. To do that they will need to recognize that the role of government is not to control social policy, family values or issues of morality. Provide us with a strong economic environment {which Romney would have done}, national security and let true religious freedom address the social / moral issues. Remember , it’s about what government can’t do to you or put upon you that really matters

Kenneth O’Rand - December 4, 2012

Heritage foundation and the Republican Party seem locked to the notion that Social Security is just another form of entitlement. I beg to differ with you. Social Security was created by the federal government without the advice and consent of the governed. The governed, for the most part, have fulfilled our part of this mandate, damn well expect, demand, our congress to meet fully with it’s obligation, to those of us, who have passed the prime age where financial adjustments can be self made. It is the fiduciary responsibility of the Congress !

Phillip Rodewald - December 4, 2012

As a life long conservative, I feel more everday like I have been and continue to be stabbed in the back by the so called Republicans who are no more than just RINOS (republicans in name only). As a front edge baby boomer, I feel that I have allowed our great country to be destroyed from within. What am I doing to my children and grandchildren by allowing scoundrels to be elected, and then to be re-elected again and again, to our governing offices? Would our Founding Fathers say now say to us…..”its time for the second American revolution”? I have decided that I will do everything in my power (discussions and financial support), as one taxpayer, to see that those RINOS will not to be elected again. Term limits of two years for all (federal, state & local) and you can’t run for another office while you are still in your current position…. are looking more appealing ever day…..maybe then we could clear out the corruption and lies because they would only be running for office to do the people’s business versus building empire’s for themselves and their families. WAKE UP FELLOW AMERICANS!!!!

J.M. Cartwright - December 4, 2012

Must have gone to the same seminars on sucessful negotiation as Neville Chamberlain.

Tom Caro - December 4, 2012

The house should pass their budget (which would include the cuts – and which they have done the past 4 years multiple times) and allow Harry Reid to “NOT” bring it for a vote. Every week that they don’t get an alternate from the Senate they should cancel the previous and up the stakes and send a new slightly more aggressive version.
That is how you negotiate…You don’t bring a knife to a gun fight..

Larry Lunsford - December 4, 2012

It’s hard to watch the community organizer-in-chief run circles around these wimpy, seasoned, so called, Republicans. We need to clean house and get some fresh blood in the Congress.

AJ Colburn - December 4, 2012

I agree with Sam Bradshaw’s comments dated today. I would further add that Boehner and his leadership is weak, shameful and disgusting.

Sharon Minton - December 4, 2012

Fire Boehner. Tell Mitch McConnell if the Republican Party does not replace him immediately – before the end of the week – we will include him in our protest of bama’s inaugeration. Please, fellow Americans, stop calling Social Secuirty and Medicare entitlement programs. I paid into those programs from 1965 to 2012 because it was promised by the Feds that my retirement years would be true retirement. The Feds are not giving me one penny that I did not pay into the system. I now must continue purchasing insurance from my pension to pay for any prescription drugs I might need, and hospital and medical insurance which Medicare (which I have paid since 1965) will no longer cover. The only part of either program became entitlement when the Feds starrted stealing from it to support its anti-American program of illegals bankrupting it. This is a sacrilege and lie to patriotic citizens who have paid, as I, into both programs, and are now called “entitlements” because American workers and employers have been paying into social security since 1930 and still believe the lie that was told to us – Social Security was our pension savings.

Keith Casenhiser - December 4, 2012

very disappointing. the republicans are spineless.

Nevin W. Meredith - December 4, 2012

This Republican proposal stinks! Looks to me like the Republican leadership is not only ignoring the wishes of today’s conservative Republicans but also betraying the original goals of our Founding Fathers…small federal government, operating on low costs, and providing the maximum freedom necessary for achieving individual productivity and financial success. Today’s Republican Party has sold us old-line conservative constitutionalists down the drain. The United States I grew up in and loved has passed on. We’re now headed towards becoming just another Western European type socialist ho-hum country with diminished personal freedoms, lower productivity and lower standards of living, and reduced national sovereignty…all accompanied by lower wages, high unemployment, inflation and overwhelming debt. Most tragically, we are the last of our kind so there’s no place for us Constitutionalists to go to either start over or to hide.

Frank Engel - December 4, 2012

Look, the federal government sucks in general but republicans suck just a tiny bit less. The feds are made up of pompous ass attorneys that have three years past undergrad school but narcissistically think they are rocket scientists. They created all these problems for the last 100 years and they create greater problems as a solution

Anita Easter - December 4, 2012

This plan stinks. We should be holding our ground, not caving!! We can’t let them bully us like this. The Republications is Congress are so afraid of being “blamed” for “going over the cliff” that they’re letting a terrible “compromise” be the plan of the day. Like Fred said, Democrats won’t cave, PERIOD! We’re playing right into their hands and they’re laughing all the way to the bank.

Kathy Fenner - December 4, 2012

The Republicans in the House were elected to fix the economy and stop Harry Reid and Obama. If they don’t do it, regardless of this unbelievable presidential election, I will become an Independent.

Bobbie - December 4, 2012

Washington seems to forget the possibility of our country being downgraded again due to fiscal irresponsibility
Creating higher interest payments on our debt. Can we get a clue! Or at least someone who understands economics. Where is a backbone when you need it?

A. L. Spence - December 4, 2012

I have been saying for over 40 years that the only difference between the dems and the repubs is the velocity at which we were going over the cliff. Pedal to the metal, boys. Damn the torpedoes, boys full speed ahead. The sooner we go over, the sooner we may begin the rebuilding process.

Rodger in WA - December 4, 2012

Having followed national politics for 60 years (beginng with FDR) and been a voter for 55 years, it is my opinion that the Obama administration is the worst in my lifetime. Obama and conpany are either totally inept or are bent on wrecking our economy in order to force upon us a socialistic dictatorship with O & Co at its head. Having watched the 2012, clearly rigged election, I suspect the later.
I pity Boehner, he is in a damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t position. With the Dems in control of 2/3 of the government all Boehner and the Republican House can do is obstruct and then take the blame for whatever the Democrats impose on us. The Democrat machine is bent on splitting and destroying the Republican party and is using the, so called, fiscal cliff to accomplish it.
An apathetic, clueless, depraved voting base has made this mess possible.
No politician(s) will save the US from fiscal collapse. Only a return to belief and reliance in God and His guidance can turn this around and the majority of the citizenry has turned its back on HIm.

J Houle - December 4, 2012

This proposal stinks but does not surprise me at all. Both parties are all empty talk that amounts to all “Lies”. If this proposal goes through I am done with the GOP for good. Bring on a third party!!!

Richard Swan - December 4, 2012

Don’t attack the Speaker! He has the job of dealing with the Devil- Obama.Explain to all How the pres. is wrong on every issue in EVERY RESPECT. Support the Speaker- attack the Demos. incl. Harry Reid.I ditto Fred Posey- 12/4/12

Lee Joyner - December 4, 2012

Those of us that consider ourselves conservatives should be seriously disappointed by this proposal. We should offer the Paul Ryan budget as passed by the House and let the President and the rest of the Democrats know that we will not consider any revenue enhancements other than what may be in the house budget. On top of that, I believe that the coming need to raise the debt limit is our best/ perhaps only negotiating tool. This should be mentioned frequently now so that the citizens of our country appreciate that at least this will be a way to force REAL spending cuts. Do not accept failure.

PaulE - December 4, 2012

Once again, the Republicans are in a race with themselves to surrender as much of their stated principles as they can as soon as any Democrat throws out any proposal. No matter how lame or ridiculous that Democrat proposal may be. no matter that Obama has said up front that spending cuts or any talk of entitlement reform are essentially off the table. It’s like watching a child so desperate for a parent’s acceptance, that they just start promising anything and everything as soon as the parent even remotely acknowledges their presence. Is this what our country has sunk to? Is this the party we are supposed to trust will stand firm for fiscal responsibility?

Allan Tolbert - December 4, 2012

Why do anything? The only spending cuts that we can possibly experience must come from doing nothing and allowing the bad compromise from last year come to pass. Another compromise under the existing political conditions would merely result in a worse situation for the nation. No matter what, it is not possible for conservatives to surrender enough to make the media, the liberals, the progressives, and/or the socialists love and respect us. No matter what, the conservatives will suffer bad press. However, it will still be Obama’s economy in the long run. It is time to take the heat before we become Greece.

Bill Baumbach - December 4, 2012

I wish we would have elected representatives that would do what is right for the country and not worry about being reelected. As conservatives we need to lay out what needs to be done and do battle. We need to stand our ground to what is good for the country. Period!!!!!!!!!!!!

Susan Myers - December 4, 2012

John Boehner has had two years to pass pieces of legislation that would cut spending and prevent the expansion of GOVERNMENT. If the democratic majority in the Senate refused to sign and move on, then it is on the liberals desk no matter what the media wants to distort. They OWN this nations problems.
The GOP needs to collectively WALK AWAY. This FRAUDULENT president who should have been impeached for the longest list of of constitutional violations ever witnessed in my lifetime and I am old! I.e. executive orders for amnesty of illegals; fast & furious & Benghazi cover- up lies, SLOW response to BP spill, lying about the NEW huge TAXES to all AMERICANS in HEALTH OBAMA care, and playing out as I type, a MIDDLE EAST chaos created by the other unqualified politician, Hillary Clinton. The TRUTH is this: OBAMA is a political monster who has taken the oath to deceive the citizens with

Eddie Burton - December 4, 2012

We can’t tax the population enough to pay for government’s spending. The size of government is out of control, government retirement-out of control. Only 28% of what they take from us actually makes it to the recipients, the bureaucrats gobble up the rest-out of control. The treasury doesn’t even take in enough revenues to pay the interest on the national debt-out of control. My company has to go out of the country to get stuff made when our government are paying people not to work-out of control. What happens when the half of the workers that are working say hey I want free stuff and quit working. Well this give up and quit attitude has been eroding away at the work force for 50 years. They (the work force) don’t consider that unemployment insurance, EBT cards, housing assistance, free phones, free healthcare, free electricity, free money loans, and schools feeding their children 2 meals a day as charity . They see it as an entitlement. This charity has no face, it is from the government and I am entitled to it because if I don’t get mine someone else will. We have done a very poor job of educating the recipients that this money comes from their friends, neighbors, and even their children’s children who work. This wouldn’t even mater to most because the liberal politics have done an excellent job of generating class envy in this country. The recipient class all agree that the ones with the money aren’t paying their fair share. What they are not telling them confiscating wealth will only make them poorer. The money has all ready run out but no one is willing to say it’s over. So the Republicans and Democrats keep on posturing their position trying to figure out which side of the fence is going to give them the most votes when they need to be re-elected. This is what has caused the can to be kicked further down the road for so many years. The president knows what needs to be done but he thinks he was elected with a mandate, social justice! The House has a mandate to represent the people that put them there and if they don’t, I have a feeling in a couple of years a lot of them will loose there jobs unless they can manage to pull the political wool over our eyes once again.

Frederick N. Evans - December 4, 2012

I have written the Speaker, telling him, “Shame, Shame, Shame.” What a difference 23 years makes. (We graduated from the same University, but I was there first.)

Rodney Galles - December 4, 2012

The TEA party must campaign on a take no prisoners platform! Vote for raising taxes or reducing deductions without a ten to one ratio of spending cuts from actual authroized spending for the last budget year and see your support go to your conservative opponent. Conservative: one who desires to retain or revert to a previous and better economic program. Balanced budget: a spending plan that reduces spending to previously approved revenue measures. Deficit spending: Wimpy’s hamburger procurement enhancement program. We are tired of being taken for fools and for granted. we try to establish candidates who understand that you do not spend what you don’t have, and Boehner and cohorts throw all the donations they have received into thwarting those efforts. I cannot believe the bogus “authorized surveys” sent out by the speaker this past year. They all pleaded for money to defeat our enemies. Now the fraudulent election has passed, and the first action the speaker takes is to purge conservative republicans from positions of influence. He does not address the blatant fraud on behalf of and in many cases almost certainly with the approval or connivance of the president. He does not address the horrific actions of the President and his close cronies with regard to the Benghazi massacre. The machine must be preserved above all other interests. Well, watch the streets for the active return of the TEA party. Tis time the enemy appears to be the House Majority Party Leaders.

Allen Mueller - December 4, 2012

The official Republican line should be: “If the CBO determined that raising rates on the top 2% would cost 700,000 people their jobs but only run the gov’t for 8 days, why should we do it?”

Donald G McKeighen - December 4, 2012

I think it’s past time for John Boehner to step down from the position he is clearly incapable of fulfilling, that is LEADERSHIP. Capitulation must be his middle name.

Roger Murray - December 4, 2012

Rush Limbaugh and Charles Krauthammer got it right! We Conservatives should just walk away and let the resulting catastrophe be wholly owned by Mr Obama. Then we would have a better position from which to do some real good. The only time our politicians get it right is when they have to, and in the meantime we all need to keep our tail-gates up!

Mike Puerling - December 4, 2012

Totally agree with Mssrs. Fraser & Foster. The Republican leadership obviously does not have the spine required to go up against the democrats. Damn shame.

richard donahue - December 4, 2012

When are we going to learn.lmost one half of the country needs to have a voice ibn Washington. We are caving on principles. Debt is our biggtest problem. Let us start cutting off funds for programs, EPA, Forign aid, UN contributions etc

James Conger - December 4, 2012

You guys just don’t get it. We Republicans are the back- benchers now. The Obama entitlement Majority just sees us as an impediment to getting their handouts. The Democrats have no intention of solving these problems – just getting reelected is their objective. Unfortunately we must let them blow up the economy and devalue the dollar until we become the alternative Leadership Party.

Darwin F. Long - December 4, 2012

Why is this a surprise to anyone? The Republican Party
has done this all along. They do not represent Constitutional government any more than their Fascist (yes I said “Fascist”) Democrat collegues. They are the reverse side of the same coin and only use conservatives to maintain what little power they can muster in this worker’s paradise. Boener is not a RINO, he is exactly what the Republican Party wants him to be. John McCain, Viagra Bob, The Bush Family……..how many more do you need before you start to see the truth. Do we have to start Goose-Stepping before you come to your senses?

Jim Wise - December 4, 2012

The Republican counter to the Obama proposal is nothing short of total capitulation. The apparent complete lack of leadership in the Republican Party has finally come to the forefront. Can a Tea Party party be far behind? I hope not as I need a new place to go politically. Our current wimp Speaker must go and the sooner the better. My Congressman, Tom McClintock is just the right person to fill the bill.

Rudy Area - December 4, 2012

Until we reduce the size and over reach of government,
we will continue ‘feeding the beast’. Government needs to really get serious about our fiscal issues. We need more taxpayers, not more taxes. Unfortunately the good hard working American peope have to suffer needlessly.
We need politicians with real ‘cojones’.

RG Schmidt - December 4, 2012

What do I think? I think the Vertibrates In Name Only who call themselves Congressional Republicans will never get it through their wimp heads that yes, Lucy’s gonna pull the damn ball away, again.

Dean Kocian - December 4, 2012

As a conservative, who worked in Romney’s campaign and with Project ORCA (much easier to use than critics claim), I must say that I do not like Boehner’s plan at all nor do I respect his knowledge of economic issues.

I think the best solution for the fiscal (whatever) right now is to cap tax deductions at about $19,000 or so per year, remove the earned income credit, repeal the Royalty Trust legislation of the mid-1980s that allows connected people to extract minerals/oil from farmer’s land and receive tax-free income, and repeal the AMT that law makers now use for rent seeking activities.

If one goes to the Tax Policy Center site at this address:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?DocID=3590,
you will see a chart that indicates that these changes along with a 20% deduction in tax rates would bring in about $1.6 trillion over ten years or what amounts to a good place to draw a line in the concrete. The new tax rates would be 8, 12, 20, 22.4, 26.4, and 28 percent and would also likely up revenues.
It would also stick it to the Blue States like New York, California, and Massachusetts that have high tax rates, big unfunded debt liabilities, and use deductibility in the Federal Tax Code to stick it to conservative, better-run Red States. Time to suck it up and explain to the American people why this is fair and also puts more money in all but the richest people’s pockets.
Meanwhile, cuts to everything including defense and the “Perceptual War for Perpetual Peace” mentality and Federal pay/payrolls must be undertaken.

J.C. Benson - December 4, 2012

Third Party isn’t the answer.
The proposal by Boehner stinks.
Republicans – you’d better start fighting back.
The Republicans should just walk away from the table.
Let it collapse. Surely this president will come and save the day along with Harry Reid.

James Kanary - December 4, 2012

Please do not give in. Stick to principals of free enterprise, less government and lower taxes. Let’s go off the fiscal cliff if Obama hangs tough on increased taxes to “wealthy”. We can make a case that it their fault, not ours. He and dems will really take the heat from the middle class since they said they would not increase taxes on them. Hang tough. Don’t give in. John Boehner looks like he is scared to death. NO BACKBONE! Let’s sit back and wait for the President and Dems to give us their plan, especially on entitlement reform. Don’t rush to achieve a settlement at the expense of our Republic.

Gary Viano - December 4, 2012

It does not matter; the Dems will spin “it” anyway they want. Truth; is never the truth, we have been lied too for so long nobody knows what is actually going on. This (in my opinion) is by design; we as a nation had better get it together real soon. There are more low information voters than there are ones in the know.
The “news” is no longer the news; it is someone’s opinion; it has been shaped to get a reaction not the “truth”. We all know this, but for some reason we do not want to believe that our government is not for the people but for themselves.
I always thought that no voted in government personal should get paid till after their term is over; then and only then would the voters “vote” their compensation. I think we would see fewer lifetime politicians. Granted there is an issue with special interest groups; but now they get money from everyone and tell us they are doing a good job.

Mark Ursino - December 4, 2012

I’m not happy about the cave, but I don’t see that the Republicans have any choice but to defensively try to at least appear to be trying to reach a deal.

Fact is, it totally serves Obama’s purposes to drive us off the cliff, and no matter what the Republicans do, I believe he intends to do just that. Once off the cliff, he will then propose a middle class tax cut which the Republicans can’t oppose. Obama gets everything he wants. I think this whole scenario was set up when the original deal was made with just this result in mind.

I’m sure that the Republicans are thinking that the best they can do is salvage some claim that they were as cooperative as possible. I think this is wrong-headed in that they can’t really salvage anything.

At any rate, I think the end-game remains unchanged. Obama will drive us off the cliff while making nice with the pubic, and the Republicans will get the blame,

Such are the costs of losing elections.

William L. Jones - December 4, 2012

The Boehner Doctrine is:

Capitulate and Grovel
Capitulate early and avoid the rush. It leaves more time to Grovel.

Rob P. - December 4, 2012

The GOP leadership simply does not get it.
This is why we lose year after year. As long as Boehner and Company avoid embracing the big ideas that got them there in the first place, the White House will be a pipe dream. The time for compromise is over. The cuts need to come first, not the tax hikes.

Kenneth Salyer - December 4, 2012

It is a sell out!!! Boehner has to go. I have lost all respect for him. I was a registered Democrat for 50 plus years. I became a registered Independent. I am glad I did not register as a Republican, I am embarassed by them. No gut, this is how we lost the election.Republican just want to play nice.Lets go over the cliff. No one talks about the waste,clean house.

Alton De Long - December 4, 2012

A devastating disappointment!

Dr. R. V. Hale - December 4, 2012

Are the Republicans trying to force a third party? Giving away principles only empowers the Democrats and weakens the Republicans. It is apprent that the current Republican “establishment” has adopted the priciples of the 1960’s Democrats and left the principles of the party. The handling of this situation is “caving” and not “principled leadership.” Where do we go to find leaders with principles and the convictions of our founders?

David B Plumer Col US Army (Ret) - December 4, 2012

Do the Republicans believe they were elected to do this? It never ceases to amaze me how easy it is to outmaneuver and incapacitate Congressional Republicans specifically and Republicans in general. It looks as if they don’t really believe what they have been saying all along. It also looks as if they are not very smart; they can’t manage to see all of the options open to them. They focus on the options their opponents impose on them. I am watching the country I fought for come apart at the seams.

Sonie - December 4, 2012

I am also a senior who gets fighting mad when I hear any of them talking oF reducing COLAS or benefits for Medicare recipients! We worked darned hard for the SS we have, and if they cut Medicare payments to doctors, where will any of us be? This argument goes around and around with Democrats talking like they want to help the lower middle class, when all they really want is more spending money any way they can get it. Lies….all lies all the way around! I agree with Mr. Posey on all counts, but I don’t think you can get Washington, either side, to act responsibly. It’s all about powerful interests without a thought of what is happening to America. Politicians are fat and happy, so why worry? I also suggest that Heritage with its power and might could influence some….are you? We need someone with guts to step forward!!

Ellen - December 4, 2012

I think no matter what happens Republicans will get blamed for the resulting problems and Democrats will get credit for doing “what was necessary.” It’s a lose/lose situation for the Republicans. John Boehner should be fired as Speaker. We need someone with backbone to lead the Republican’s in the House. My suggestions would be Jason Chaffetz (Utah) or Michele Bachmann (MN).

Ed Madigan - December 4, 2012

Does anyone think term limits might provide us with some real leaders willing to stand on principal? Think about it, your rep knowing he or she only has so much time to produce meaning results and not be concerned with reelection. I believe no retirement for Senators or Congress reps. Serve X number of years and go back to the real world.

David Price, Sr. - December 4, 2012

No Guts! Disappointing! Whatever happened to principled behavior? The proposal is a loser–so if you’re going to lose anyway, why not go down blazing away in support of what you have claimed were the principles you believed in? Even in the photo, Boehner looks scared, defensive and defeated.

Bill - December 4, 2012

The House of Representatives should pass a bill that extends all of the tax cuts and other related expiring issues and allows time to address expense reductions, tax reform, debt ceiling caps and entitlements. If the President allows the country to go over the cliff it is clear now or later he would be responsible. I think he won’t let this happen!

David A. Wiles - December 4, 2012

I am so disgusted with our House leadership—they are caving, as they always do! I believe Boehner sacked the Tea party leaders so he could fold easier. What a crock! Sadly, our Republican leadership in the House are suffering from GDD (gonad deficit disorder) and they really should seek treatment before this spreads throughout the GOP!

Cliff Thomas - December 4, 2012

It is wrong, we started on Obama’s Side. The only way to come out of this as a free country is to make it easy for business to increase its production with lower taxes and less regulation and confidence that we will keep it that way. We have to grow out of this problem as well as reducing Gov’t Spending. I am tired of my taxes going into someone else’s pockets. I barely make it on what my parents would have thought was a treamendous amount. We hardly ever go out, we just stay at home and try to get by.

Dennis Altom - December 4, 2012

I am tired of bawling Boehner and his caving even before negotiations. As a senior I think the Federal Government takes too much of our money and spends to much on useless wasteful social programs.
No new Taxes, Yes to a 10% yearly across the board cut to all Federal programs for the next 6 years.
Eliminate the EPA, Department of Education and all foreign aid.
If Boehner caves I will remember and donate to replace him with a true conservative the next election cycle.

david - December 4, 2012

Put pressure on your republican house rep. Tell him or her that you will not provide them with future monetary or voting support unless they work to boot boehner. Money and votes are the only things they understand.

Bet your bottom dollar that boehner is going to take care of his district. Time to send a message.

Julius Cruise - December 4, 2012

The Republican establishment, like most of the country, has consistently and persistently refused to recognize the radical revolutionary agenda of Barack Obama and his supporters (as opposed to those who simply vote for him).

Here they are again, caught flat-footed, as if they expected him to do something (anything!) in good faith. When will they learn that the only thing that this man does welll is wage political war, and with him the goal is the annihilation of his opponents (enemies).

The country has given him his head. God help us all!

Charles E Barr - December 4, 2012

I am not surprized at all the direction this has taken. I do not feel either the Republican nor Democrates intend to avoid the so called fiscal cliff. In the end result the President will get what he wanted, whether to go over the ‘cliff’ or a giveaway by the Republicans. I personallty have about given up on thinking the Republican elements within Congress have any desire to stand on conservative principals.

Judith Cohen - December 4, 2012

The House should re-submit their previous Budget and spending cuts. Get it to the Senate..get it on record, so when we fall off this cliff, and Republicans are blamed, there will at least be a record otherwise. John Boehner is a disappointment to this nation….his recent actions are reprehensible.

David Price, Sr. - December 4, 2012

No Guts! Disappointing and discouraging! What ever happened to principled behavior? If you’re going to lose anyway why not go down blazing away in support of what you have said you believed? Who would have thought that conservative leadership would be pushed around so easily? Even in the photo Boehner looks scared and defensive.

Terry - December 4, 2012

Looks like the Republicans are “selling out” to Obama. Personally, I am not happy with the direction I see our party going.

Stuart MacLean - December 4, 2012

The ‘fiscal cliff’ was defeated in debate at the Constitutional Convention in 1787. Artical I, Section 8 ‘to emit bills of credit’ was deleted. Congress was given authority ‘to coin money’ for a reason!

Was ‘Congress’ serious in 1787 or does it read ‘to coin money’ …..’just kidding’?. Does it read ‘to coin money’ until we need more? Or until Wilson, FDR or Nixon deems it ‘ a threat to our system of government’, ‘old economics’?

It’s time to end the “temporary suspension of the ‘gold window'”. It’s time to come back to Kansas.

Troy Alders - December 4, 2012

I’ll make my comments following this (monitored approval reminder) from Heritage: “Comments are subject to approval and moderation. We remind everyone that The Heritage Foundation promotes a civil society where ideas and debate flourish. Please be respectful of each other and the subjects of any criticism”. I’ll be 66 years old in January and I have ALWAYS promoted a civil society. I understand having a different point of view than someone else because of varying circumstances which contribute to how one looks at life. I believe in God and America’s constitution and free market capitalism and a conservative political party. For this I’m called “heartless” by the leftist progressives in the Democratic party that want to totally transform America into a country entirely 180 degrees opposed to how our founding fathers constructed it to be.
Politically, it is becoming more difficult for me to remain civil when the other side constantly speaks and acts with constant lies and deceit in such an outlandish “take no conservative prisoners” manner. To my way of thinking, it’s impossible to have “a civil society where ideas and debate flourish” when you are up against an opponent such as this.

Charles Stefan - December 4, 2012

I believe the GOP establishment is really no different that the liberals on the left. They’re just not in power. Speaker Boehner is not much different than Harry Reid is in the Senate for kicking off conservative representatives from their committee assignments.

Lew Casbon - December 4, 2012

I did not have serious doubts about Boehner until now. His actions to strip conservatives from committees and to allow increases are deplorable. It is time for him to be replaced. I do not believe a 3rd party is the answer but something must be done.

Claude Spainhour - December 4, 2012

Tom Cotton is not from Alaska (AK). He’s from Arkansas (AR) and we’re very proud of that. Please correct today’s entry!

Author Katie Nielsen - December 5, 2012

Thank you for your edit! I have made the correction.

Ed. Roob - December 4, 2012

While we cannot roll-over we must recognize that THEY WON—-Sorry, WE LOST. We lost the Presidency for many reasons. #1 a messianic zeal for pro-life see Indiana and Missouri. Not running heavy against O’Bama care— which was the main reason teapartiers were elected in 2010. Romney talked a good game but never articulated the proper message because he still thought Romney care was the way to go and his ego was involved and he could not admit it’s error, and not articulating common sense.How tough would it have been for example to buy some 30 second national TV spots and ask the question. Ladies, do you really think that our mothers, wives, daughters and granddaughters would allow us to run an anti-women campaign? It would have made Lysistrata look like an amatuer. Give me a break. Deal with it guys. we LOST.
Regards, Ed. Roob

Anthony - December 4, 2012

Lose / Lose situation for the GOP . The Dem’s and the media have them against the ropes . If the hard core Conservatives are not careful we will have Reid & Pelosi at the helm again .

Bruce Laing - December 4, 2012

Maybe the Republicans in Washington ought to hire Donald Trump to negotiate for them. You know…..someone who knows how to make a deal.

Wendy - December 4, 2012

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James E. Lange - December 4, 2012

We fully agree with your assessment. NO negotiations on ANY tax hikes, without FIRM commitments on REAL spending cuts and REAL entitlement reform. John Boehner is a RINO and is a disaster as Speaker of the House. He says one thing, but, when push comes to shove, he repeatedly gets rolled by the leftists, Barack Obama & Harry Reid. Now he is rolling over again, when he & the Republican House majority should be standing strong and fulfilling their repeated promises NOT to raise taxes. John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell & the rest of the Republican leadership in Congress are a BIG part of the problem. They repeatedly put politics over principles and what is best for our country. Despite all of their “conservative” rhetoric, they are complicit in the massive debt we have accumulated, in the continued out-of-control spending, in the increasing erosion of our economy and in the weakening of our nation, both morally & militarily. Until Boehner & McConnell grow spines, our nation is in the incompetent, negligent, corrupt hands of Barack Hussein Obama & his Dem stooges. The Republicans should make Obama, Reid & the Senate Dems own the coming economic crisis — pass a 10 year extension of the current tax rates, without any of their balogna “tax reform” crappolla, and send it to the Senate. Then they need to stop negotiating with themselves & focus on communicating their message to the American people.

Hugh Hoadley - December 4, 2012

He is off his rocker. It wil kill the Republican Party

Robert Turner - December 4, 2012

This is all you can expect from RINOS who only want the press to think nice of them.

Edgar Tucker - December 4, 2012

Mr Boehner needs to look at what ther president does and then do the same.Go out and present his case thru the various talk shows and encourage the members of the house including the leadership to pound the airways with their side of the problem and how the president isnt around to show any concern so take it or leave it attitude

Wayne Peterkin - December 4, 2012

You call the Republican plan preemptive capitulation which sums it up very well. The bottom line is that some select people will pay more in taxes. While the proposal may have more in spending cuts that what Obama wishes, the fundamental changes needed are indeed absent. I personally believe that serious tax reform needs to bring the 47% of Americans currently getting a free ride into the realm of “taxpayer” so that all Americans have some skin in this game. That said, our major problem is the insane level of federal spending. The wealth redistribution seen in the discretionary spending must be cut as well as the bigger issue of real entitlement reform. Sadly the establishment Republicans do not have the spine to tackle the big issues and will join the Democrats in kicking the can down the road once more.

Gerrie Putnam - December 4, 2012

Sorry to be crude but it’s the same old RINO Republican BS! We need a conservative based third party and we need it now. I am not as much disappointed in Boehner as I am disgusted in him.

Chris Lewis - December 4, 2012

When will the Republican party get a backbone? The way to negotiate this issue is to not negotiate until the Dems make a meaningful proposal. The problem is that the Republicans are too sensitive to the sharp blades fo criticism from the “almighty” mainstream media. Let the economy go over the cliff!! Push the administration to the limit! C’mon folks! Grow a set will ya!?

Keneth d. Johnson - December 4, 2012

Fraser and Foster deem it “a dud. It is utterly unacceptable. I agree with Fraser aand Foster

richard hunter - December 4, 2012

Am beginning to think the Republicans in Congress are disguised Democrats!

Linn Schultz - December 4, 2012

If Boehner and House Rep. members were in uniform, their actions would be called Treason. “We have met the enemy and he is us.” Being in the club is obviously more important than having the guts to fight to save this country financially. Give them the opportunity and RINO’s will always separate themselves from the Party.

Daniel Schultz - December 4, 2012

The GOP just doesn’t get it and from the look of things I seriously doubt if they ever will.
IDIOTS: it’s about the country and not about you freeloaders remaining in power.
I personally will no longer make any donations to the GOP or any individual candidate who does not have a proven record of Conservative actions to be viewed as a Patriot.
I believe only a massive shift in thinking together with TERM LIMITS for all public offices, ( local and national), and getting us out of the worthless, blood sucking UN can save our nation.
A disgusted 84 year old Korean vet
who had hoped to leave a better country for our children and their heirs !

Thomas Boyd - December 4, 2012

I am exceedingly disappointed in their actions and lack of back bone. They have the keys to the purse and they need to act like it! Quit being afraid of the big bad wolf, and show those that voted for them that they will stand and do what is right for the long term health and welfare of the nation they are committed to serve and protect. They need to re-read their oath of office, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independance. Then they need to read what those that created this country have written and use those principles to stand for what is right!

Now go pass legislation that will start the country down the right path, get on the TV and really take their case to the people and do so with clarity. Make is so the simplest of souls understands!

Robert Mac Murdo - December 4, 2012

Shah Galani wrote the other day that America needs a wake up call…all Americans. A serious response to Obama’s plan would say that “…until you put specific entitlement reforms, real spending cuts and reductions in the rate of growth of entitlements and income tax reform on the table we suggest you check your parachute, Sir.” Out of chaos we may emerge a better party with some responsibility to the principles which made us great in the first place.

jumping jack - December 4, 2012

we the gop…are caving..shortage of backbone..the usa
is suffering….tax this exempt that enough to get headake…use RRs plan for flat tax..but to simple i guess
jj

Dave Knothe - December 4, 2012

Spineless, simply spineless. Once again the republicans are proving that they do not understand or do not have the courage to stand on principle. The intelligent, hard working rational citizens are crying for leadership and there is simply none to be found in the GOP. The country is going to be lost at the hands of incompetent fools that still think they are on the school house play yard.

William Grey - December 4, 2012

Why doesn’t Boehner and his palls just move over to the democratic Party so we can elect some real conservatives. Boehner is a RINO in sheep’s clothing.

Ron Mason - December 4, 2012

Ron Mason – December 4, 2012
Fred Posey and many others are right. Renee Miller accurately discribes the position the Republican and conservative are in. I just add a little different touch to the problem.
With both of their statements, I add the following. When you are behind the 8 ball it is smart to figure out how to get out front. Get out of the trap by setting a trap for the Liberals. Let the President and dems lead their followers down the yellow brick road to disaster. When inflation sets in, when you can’t borrow any more money, when gasoline is $6 a gallion and bread is $4 a loaf and unemployment is at 10% plus, the 18 to 24 voters will learn the same lesson as the adult takers in society. No one can get a free ride forever. Then the Republican party and its strong conservative values can step up and save the country. It may hurt for a while but in the end, if you know that the President and his backers are wrong, hold your horses and close your mouth and wait. Otherwise, the Liberals will continue to paint conservaties as evil, God fearing idiots and anti everything that looks and taste good. Which of course is not true at all.

JPR11 - December 4, 2012

This is a spending issue and not a tax issue. The Repubs are too focused on taxation and hv lost sight of the real issue. Just look to CA for the Obama model and the result.

Roy Wiegert - December 4, 2012

Where is some backbone to stand up to the corupt Obama machine. Please do your job to protect the country.

Founding Father - December 4, 2012

Speaker Boehner,
Do the honorable thing and turn in your gavel at once. Clearly you are unfit to lead your party and our nation. We need a Speaker who understands how to lead and negotiate. Sadly, you are quite poor at both. Perhaps one of the Tea Party members you just rooted out of their committee positions could step in and show you what standing on principle and having a spine is like. Back in our day, you would be tarred and feathered and ran out of town. Some day you will realize how many millions of people you have failed. Now that’s something for you to cry about!

CDR James Egan - December 4, 2012

I am again disappointed in the Republican Party; that’s why I left the “Party” about 15 years ago. I consider myself an “Independent Conservative”, I contrubute to candidates (conservative) of my choice and volunteer for their cause. I support senatorial candidates from other states (mine are losers in a BLUE state (WA). I am almost to the point of subscribing to another party, I have no faith in these guys.

sted garber - December 4, 2012

First, I am very disappointed that the media has convinced some republicans in congress to roll over on tax increases just like they convinced Chief Justice Roberts to roll over on obamacare. Second, I agree with Fred Posey that the president and most democrats will not negotiate in good faith. Third, from a personal perspective I would be willing to pay some higher taxes if I could be certain that there would be real reductions in spending including lasting repairs to make entitlements affordable, that would take spending back to around 20% of GDP. I do not believe this will happen and pray the republicans don’t give any more.

Ray Perry - December 4, 2012

I am no fan of the Republican Party (RP), however, comparing them with Democrats is like comparing The Beaver to Dennis the Menace. The RP is not the root problem. The citizenry has been mongrelized by the elite and academia’s enthrallment with diversity and multiculturalism. The majority of voters in November share Mr. Obama’s perverted, IMHO, view of normal. This is no longer John Wayne’s America. We must be prepared for our journey through the wilderness.

Shannon Roe - December 4, 2012

I’m at a disadvantage to tell you what I think of the GOP plan, because I don’t know how to spell the sound a raspberry makes.

The best comments I’ve heard on this issue came from Newt Gingrich on Greta’s show. My interpretation of what he said is that Congress needs to take back its constitutional role and start passing legislation to deal with the particulars of the so-called fiscal cliff instead of accepting the premise that it’s one big do-or-die deal.

You don’t climb a mountain by standing at the foot of it and trying to jump (or wish yourself) to the peak; you start up it step-by-step. That’s the only way to make progress. This whole “fiscal cliff” business is a boogieman created by the Democrats to destroy the Republicans, no matter what choices the Republicans make, so long as they accept the premise. The only winning choice for the GOP is to stop playing that rigged game and get down to the business of addressing the spending problems, one by one, with specific legislation.

John Gormley - December 4, 2012

I’m disappointed in the Republicans. They act like losers. Our conservative principles never change regardless of election outcomes. The President doesn’t have a mandate. Fight for true fiscal reform, especially spending reform. Make the President and Democrats show their true agenda for America. I didn’t quit. I’m still educating everyone I know and Heritage information is part of that.

John Sullivan - December 4, 2012

They have been in DC toooooo long.

Francis P Kondler - December 4, 2012

In my opinion the Republican Party is no longer viable. I knew Boehner would once again cave in to Barack Hussein and the Dems. He should end the charade and give the Dems all they want now because he will in the end anyway.
I am a 76 year old (my wife is also 76) retired Air Force vet.
We have voted in our last election. I regret having wasted 23 years of my life defending my country only to have someone like Barack Hussein take over. I feel that in 4 years elections will become irrelevant because the Dems will control everything. Hopefully, we will not be around to witness the death of our country.

Larry Page - December 4, 2012

Our GOP leadership is completely clueless how to represent their citizens they can’t wait to roll over and grab their ankles for the President when they go hard over to do what is right for America rather than what they think they can sell. Throw them all out!

Judy L Cummings - December 4, 2012

Well Boehner is known for forfeiting the conservative values most republicans have so am not surprised that he would kiss Obama’s skirt. However, if congress does not make spending cuts a part of the proposal, then who do we have to keep Obama from taking at least half of our income. They seem to not care about the elderly, of which my husband and I are members, our income has remained the same, while groceries, gasoline, etc. in general have gone out of sight. It seems like the people who have been around the longest, gets the least respect from the government, republicans included. It is a sad commentary on our wonderful and free nation that is quickly becoming a socialist state. GOD help us.

Patrick Ryan - December 4, 2012

Even more upsetting is the demotion of four conservative house members from their respective committees. What is that all about?

Boehner is just plain weak. No leadership qualities. And even worse negotiation skills. A disaster however you analyze his actions.

Don Riegel - December 4, 2012

Boehner and anyone who supports his lastest/current stance are idiots. The House need to pass an extension of the current rates for everyone and pass the Ryan Plan to save SS and Medicare right now. If we capitulate on this, the Republican Party will never see another dime from me. Failing this, Ryan needs to be elected Speaker and Rubio or someone who can articulate our meesage needs to become Senate Minority Leader. I am so sick of these incompetent morons representing us. Ditto the RNC.

Leo Worobkevich - December 4, 2012

I am a fiscal and social conservative and have been voting republican lately as well as sending what I can afford to senate/house conservatives.If the House leadership capitulate and increase $ going to DC without doin anything to save the USA from financial ruin, I will only vote/ support conservatives in the future not establishment republicans. It won’t matter to me whether the new crop are Tea Party/ conservative Republicans or independens. I am sure ther are millions of us in the same boat. I just hope that the esteblishment Republicans (Boehner) get the message and get a little backbone wnen they are dealing with insacionable leftists.

Lou Oberman - December 4, 2012

No Deals….Let the Bush Tax Cuts Expire. Obama will then ask for tax cuts for his “middle class” in January. Either way, the Republicans will be blamed, however, at least there will be a fight (out of the Holidays) and segments of the voters will hear the debates. It’s time to call the President’s bluff, buy some time and educate the public.

Margaret M. Lawlor - December 4, 2012

I think that the Repurlicans should not give into the
Presidents demands. Let him go off the fiscal cliff and then let him explain to the American people why he did what he did instead of what he had promised to do. He is a true Chicago Politician YOU CAN NOT TRUST HIM>

John Fitzhugh - December 4, 2012

The House was given the ‘quick balancing’ affect by its’ designers. The House [Majority] must send their ideological [conservtaive] budget and stand tall. This risky yet honest offensive will advise all Americans how wide ( i.e. re political special interests) ‘this’ cliff really extends before it ledges over and falls. Fighting the fight should NOT be postponed until later after appeasement to the King lets apathy set in. Then, fortunately via our democracy, we can see what America wants again in 2014, etc.. Fight/win the small battles each and every today. A minority of the colonists’ decided to stand with Washington.

Steve McCoy - December 4, 2012

Just another example of “establishment Republicans” being establishment. Country be damned, it’s about the party.

John Rice - December 4, 2012

What did you expect? There never seems to be enough backbone in the party to stand up for anything, much less anything that will do the country any good. AND, I fully expect them to fall for the time-honored Democrat party trick of tax hint now; never get around to spending reductions. We need a real political party, not a bunch of wimps whose concern is to make the press and dems “like us”. I’m depressed.

Eileen - December 4, 2012

How I wish the GOP would get a backbone! Doesn’t help that the msm twists everything to blame them regardless of what they say or do. Wonder what the country would be like if we actually had a media that reported facts rather than being an arm of the dems?

David Loutzenhiser - December 4, 2012

Let this proposal get in bed with current expiration of Bush tax cuts and send it all over the cliff. We need someone with guts to tell the Democrats to get in the bucket going over the cliff. I do not see any of current crop of leadership in the Republican party cutting anything. We knew all the R’s wanted was control of spending by winning and most likely were not going to right the ship. It just has to get so bad the whole country might wake up. Boehner has about as much grey matter between his ears as does Hussein.

TA Roy - December 4, 2012

The bulk of the ‘leaders’ in the GOP are your classic career politicians – they are covering their asses to protect their cushy patrician positions – the fate of the nation is of secondary importance in their myopic DC world. The remnant of hope I have for the country lay with the Tea Party and their grassroot efforts to form a coalition of the thinking/working Americans who still adhere to the ideals of our founding fathers. This is no time to capitulate to the decadence of the social progressives/socialists, rather we need to gather together and support one another in an effort to recapture – in fact, save – our integrity and national ideals. During the Revolutionary War, about 30% of the populous supported the Crown, another 30% were ‘indifferent’ and only about 30% fully supported the cause of indepence…now we have about 48% (according to the recent vote) in support of freedom. The consequences of the stifling policies of the administration together with continuing educational efforts of the Tea Parties and like-minded organizations can return the country to fiscal and moral sanity in the coming years.

Sam Romeo - December 4, 2012

I am sick and tired of the wimps in the GOP Republicans do not have any back bone and do not know how to fight .I say to Hell with it all and let all of the cuts go into place if thats the only way we can cut spending than so be it,Then the 47% will have to pay taxes if the Golden One can create any jobs,I am tired of working for the Goverment free stuff has to STOP!!

Clay Hamlin - December 4, 2012

Terrible and stupid. We need to freeze spending. Better to go over the cliff than to do this. Why would they start there? What weakly whimps! I am now an independent – no one left to fight for America and what is right and logical and good economics. A bad “compromise” is the worst thing to do, as this is a great opportunity to do something meaningful.

John - December 4, 2012

Boehner: No surprise to me and to Democrats and liberals….HE is SPINELESS….We have no chance of doing anything right when we have such a loser in charge of the House. He has a record of losing negotiations.

Dr. Henry D. Sinopoli - December 4, 2012

It is irrelevant…When you have politicians who value reelection more than the core values of a nation…it’s over. Boehner is a poor excuse for an American…

Ron Lovick - December 4, 2012

What is wrong with Conservative Americans !!
This is VERY SIMPLE… You wouldn’t let your 16 year old have a Credit Card with an unlimited spending limit !!
So why would you let a bunch of Politicians do the same thing !!
Don’t raise a SINGLE Tax Rate, CUT Regulations, ABOLISH the Dept of Energy, Dept of Commerce, Dept of Education, & EPA, CUT overall spending by $800 BILLION per year, including reforming Social Security system, Medicare/Medicaid system, and STOP Welfare giveaways !!
You See…. It REALLY is VERY SIMPLE !!!

Douglas l & Barbara Perle - December 4, 2012

I and my wife are going to divorce the Republican party as a whimppy submissive weakling with no direction or purpose. I can’t believe that they think this is a plan for responsible economics.

T harkness - December 4, 2012

I can’t beleive John B. is willing to give this issue to Obama. He’s helping to destroy the party and what we stand for. I hope to donote to whoever defeats these weak nee leaders on our side.

We don’t have a revenue problem with Taxes….. Why don’t they get it.

Walt Brown - December 4, 2012

I haven’t read one comment that evidences specific knowledge of just how massive the debt and spending problem really is.

I’m inclined to largely agree with the comments suggesting the Republican leadership is not up to the task. However, Renee Miller states it correctly–the Repubs are “darned if they do and darned if they don’t.”
Therefore, they should do as follows:
1. Fully accept Obama’s demand for rate increases on the upper 2%. (The impact will be essentially inconsequential with a rate hike of only 4.5% on the wealthiest. It might be different if the proposed hike was 10% or 20%. And, it needn’t be considered to be permanent. This issue is just not worth fighting over, vs. the need for entitlement reform and spending reductions).
2. After agreeing with Obama’s full demand for revenue increases as part of a compromise bill, then the Repubs should demand of Obama in return at least $2 in spending cuts for every $1 of new revenue that they agreed to–putting the issue of whether we go over the fiscal cliff squarely back into the laps of Obama.

This business of arguing over the amount of revenue increases is laughable. The number I understand to have been “demanded” by Obama is $1.6 Trillion over ten years. That’d be $161 Billion per year–peanuts when compared to the fact that we are currently running deficits of $110-$120 Billion per month !! Give ‘em the revenue, and then have the guts, courage and principle to demand the cuts.

Darrel Reibson - December 4, 2012

John, Harry & Nancy are all more interested in their own career positions of power than the well being of the American taxpayers. All three, act like the avreage Ameraican is too stupid to know what’s in our best interests. What a great example for the need of term limits.

Steve Dalhoff - December 4, 2012

What do you expect from Republicans who have also contributed to the fiscal mess we are in? The old Republican guard will never win another presidential election, and this proof. Sorry Ohio, you sent a dud.

dan naldrett - December 4, 2012

Weak, not even tepid. Now The Speaker will come out and say We Have Done The Best That We Can. I think that these men are so morally bankrupt that they cannot stand, or speak with any authority or conviction. Remember what the R. Party did to Sarah Palin as the Dems Savaged her and Family. They watched as Dear old McCain said Obama will make a good President. Why are they running so hard from the light (the truth) of where we are at as a nation?

Barbara Cassel - December 4, 2012

I didn’t think I would ever say this, but at 71, I am ready to leave the Republican Party! I am so fed up with their pandering and boot-licking!!! They are a new version of the ‘cave’ man. They have been working their way up to this for a number of years, but they have crossed the line this time.
From here on out; unless there is a massive change, I am just a CONSERVATIVE and will no longer identify with the GOP. In reality, I have not left the Party, the Party has left me! I have loved this God-given country all my life and am heart-sick at what I see happening.

James - December 4, 2012

The republican majority in the house is once again turning its back on the voters. From all appearances, it again seems the republicans will cave in to this spend thrift of a failed president.
In the aftermath of this scandal, if the republicans do not stand their ground and insist on meaningful spending cuts, but instead bow once again to this administration, no republican in the near future will receive my vote. Mine will be a third party vote or a write in for someone of integrity.
If Boehner once again throws in the towel and grants the wishes of this poor excuse for a president, then I see no way for him to retain the leadership of the House.

Hugh Doss - December 4, 2012

The public is not very bright. If the republicans absolutely refuse to increase revenue sources, the democrats will succeed in convincing them it is all the republicans fault. The real problem is spending, which must be cut. Both parties must compromise. Remember that Reagan raised taxes – a compromise – in his second term because democrats – who were in control – kept spending.

Gregory Ganser - December 4, 2012

Business as usual. Republican Rinos playing from the defense and trying to fit in with the media propagandized politically correct forum. All we need now is the grand maestro Boehner to wet his pants and capitulate the baton to the left. Just another day in rinoland. Another empty suit Mr. Speaker.

Paul - December 4, 2012

Boehner, Canter and that inner circle are the problem. They are not conservatives. They are weak-principled. Obama is waiting for the enevitable capitulation by these men. It is better to go off the “fiscal cliff,” than to proceed as these men have. The people of the United States elected a Republican majority in the House to go and do battle with the progressive behemoth, not wet themselves in public with some weak-kneed give away. Obama and Axelrod are laughing at this Republican cave-in. We need new leadership by a true conservative Republican.

Nancy H Marshall - December 4, 2012

I emailed Heritage the evening after the election and told you then. I will repeat it again. Boehner has to go as speaker of the House. My stomach is as sick as it was the night of the election. The Republicans will get smart and not get taken by the Democrats the day the Detroit Lions win a championship. On that day people in southeastern MI will scream out in fright, faint from fear, cut themselves, then commit suicide being sure the end. Is here. In other words it won’t happen.

Bob Hoffman - December 4, 2012

Frankly, I am tired of the gridlock in D.C. It is time that we try to meet somewhere in the middle. I am proud that the Republicans are making a Good Faith Effort along these lines. Now the Democrats need to do the same. However, I do think the Republicans have gone too far in their Good Faith Effort. It is unconscionable that we have been operating without a budget for so many years! It is also wrong for the elected officials to have all the special perks, i.e. pension, medical, etc. They should have the same program the people have.
I do not look at Social Security and Medicare as entitlement programs since I have been paying in for over 51 years. I will probably never come close to drawing an equal amount out of Social Security.

EddieW - December 4, 2012

It simply proves they are NOT Conservatives at heart…only “pretend” long enough to get elected…right on!! These must be dumped ASAP!!

Paul - December 4, 2012

Social Security Insurance (SSI) is INSURANCE. When it was started, life expectancy was under 65. Roosevelt thought everybody would pay, but few would collect. He envisioned it as a social safety net, an insurance program.

We have mentally changed what Social Security is. Life expectancies are now in the upper 70’s. For decades, people have viewed what they would get from SSI as part of their retirement. It was never intended to be that. People are now living 15 to 20 years longer, drawing money from SSI all that time. If you figure out your contributions over your lifetime, most people draw out their money with interest in about 5 years. The problem is, where does the remaining 10 to 15 years of payments come from? Social Security has become an entitlement program because it is using taxpayer money to pay people way more than they put in because people are living so much longer..

Dennis Croysdale - December 4, 2012

The Republicans lost and will continue to lose the political game as long as they persist in arguing only the sound economical arguments. Raise the tax rates for those making over $250,000, don’t mess with deductions and then focus on cutting spending and changing entitlements. The real problem is spending and while Republicans keep denying the small tax rate hikes, the big picture is being lost. Obama is going to win the argument that the wealthy should pay at higher tax rates. His basis is to penalize the wealthy, there is no sound economic premise. So let’s let him have his little win and get on with focusing our attention on spending and entitlements, at least Republicans will not lose everything.

Philip Abbott - December 4, 2012

Boehner is not leading. Standing on conservative principles takes leadership. He is not a conservative fighter. If you compromise with Socialists, they win, you lose!

Kerry Myers - December 4, 2012

During the campaign Obama stated spending cuts 2.5-3.0 times the amount of revenue. Now he has asked for 1.6 trillion in new revenue. Republicans should ask him to detail the corresponding cuts of 4-4.8 trillion. Put the burden on Obama to detail the cuts. If the Repubs cave—give revenue without immediate and certain cuts of 2.5-3.0X greater than revenue they will be toast. I, along with others, will no longer support the Repub party. It is becoming clear that too many Repubs are exactly the same as Democrats, and we are getting close to cutting the cord unless they quickly grow a backbone.

august mezzetta - December 4, 2012

A tax on high frequency trading and shadow banking activities would go a long way to remedying our deficit. And it would lay the blame where it belongs at the feet of the financial industry. Social Security is not an entitlement it’s an insurance program paid for by working men and women and their employers. Take back the democrats “great society ” package which is an entitlement aimed at mollifying blacks. The words of Senator Byrd have been prophetic.” We are creating a super class of Americans” with this program.

Pat Gleason - December 4, 2012

The GOP budget plan is just like the Speaker who has presented it, A BIG LOSER!!!!!

Hallie Prichard - December 4, 2012

Washington is disfunctional, both on the Democratic and Republican side. What is good for America is not a prime consideration for either party. If the Republicans cave on the President’s pseudo budget proposal this country is fated to follow other failed states. If Republican leadership can’t stand up to this obvious political move by Mr. Obama, then they deserve what follows. Unfortunately, the American people do not.

William Hughes - December 4, 2012

Obama say he wants to be bipartisan. When it gets right down to it, it’s his way or the highway. It is pass time for the white house and Washington D.C., be purged of the marxist thugs and the head thug, with the funny ears. All he wants in allowing the taxes to go up on the rich is, that in a year or two he will lower the same tax for the rich, and in doing so, show everyone how benevolent “BIG GOVERNMENT” can be. Let the rodent in the white house have his way and watch the other rodents desert the ship in a year or two!

Mike Mullholland - December 4, 2012

Boehner highlights that the Republican establishment stands for notheing and falls for anything. Thats the major reason the November elections were lost . To many have become convinced there is no difference between the 2 parties. I a conservative am ready to wish a pox on all their houses !! The ‘elite’ are not listening to US or reason. Getting close to time for pitch forks and torches.

James Davenport - December 4, 2012

Boehner must go. He must not give into Obama and his crew. He is in the process of destrying the party. Let us go off the cliff and let Obama get it resolved. Obama can answer to people when the intelligent people take to the street.

Dave Burnett, Salt Lake City, UT - December 4, 2012

I am 57 years old have never been more disappointed in the politicians, especially the Republican “leadership”. That would be you, Mr Boehner, Hatch, and basically the rest of the old spineless Congressional mules. You should all be castrated and sent home. This country is on the doorstep of revolution! We, the People, will not let back room politicians screw our beloved country and trample the Constitution. Get it right THIS time, boys, for you sure aren’t men!

R H Simonsen - December 4, 2012

What choice does he have? He’s trying to be reasonable with a president who can’t lead and doesn’t think he has to negotiate.

If it were me, I would pass a bill in the House that reinstates the Bush tax cuts permanently and send it to the Senate. Let them kill it and explain to the public why they (and “O”) raised all Americans taxes!

Ron Rodgers - December 4, 2012

President Barack Obama said on February 23, 2009 – ” I pledge to cut the deficit ($12 trillion) in half (to $6 trillion) by the end of my first term (January 2013).”
He missed the pledge by $10 trillion. Enough said.

U.S. revenues grew 6% the fiscal year ending Oct. 1, 2012.
It’s a SPENDING PROBLEM – stupid!

Martha Perry - December 4, 2012

This is truly disturbing. Moreover, two of the most conservative Republicans were just thrown off the Budget Committee, so Boehner could cave without whimper. Perhaps our next move should be to rid our party of Boehner and friends?

Steven McClaskey - December 4, 2012

“The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.”


G.K. Chesterton in the Illustrated London News April 19, 1924

reneemiller - December 5, 2012

Sharon said, “The Feds are not giving me one penny that I did not pay into the system.”

I respectfully disagree with your statement, Sharon. My husband & I are roughly your same age. Three years ago, at 62, he took retirement and Social Security benefits. When we met with the SS representative, he remarked that my husband had a nice monthly benefit, compared to some ($1500). He then asked us if we knew how much my husband had paid into SS . . .”$78,000 over your working career,” he stated. “You will get that back within the first 4 1/2 years of your retirement.” So it follows that any benefits received after that will not be coming out of my husband’s contributions.

Back in the day when FDR introduced the Social Security program, I believe it was touted as a SUPPLEMENT to retirement income, not the whole enchilada. People were still expected to live off their savings and interest income. And as originally proposed, you would only get out what you paid in. As the years went by, SS was tweaked to include SS Disability and other programs that ended up being vote buyers. At one point, widows’ & surviving children were given a monthly stipend. Many times that was more than working men made; I know this because my cousin was widowed at age 30 with three small children. Her monthly Social Security check was considerably larger than my husband’s paycheck. And later, her oldest daughter attended college cost-free, courtesy of SS. Few years later when her second child graduated high school, Ronald Reagan was in office and nixed the college benefits program.

And I believe that the program has not been truly vested for decades. At some point, Congress authorized “borrowing” from the Social Security lockbox until there was nothing in it but IOUs. The illegals came later to seriously overload the system. I’m not minimizing that by any means. My town is 70% Hispanic (2 packing plants) and a relative who works at one of them says it’s not uncommon to find three or more workers share the same SS#.

I do agree with you, Sharon, that Boehner needs to go.

Gary Anderson - December 5, 2012

BO has stated he will veto any bill that does not increase tax rates on the “rich.” I say let him sign or veto any bill that gets through both houses to his desk. If Harry Reid allows a Senate vote on a House proposal that cuts spending and boosts revenue without tax rate increases, let it go to BO and make him publically sign or not sign. Yes, sigh, I realize that Ried will likely shield BO from a bill without tax rate increases, but I also realize that the DEMS and MSM will blame the GOP no matter what they do; so do the right thing.

Ron Rodgers - December 5, 2012

Certain media’s intentional reporting omissions and bias; unfounded emotion directed toward many selected groups; repetitive big and simple lies; more than 50 years of threats within our own government of creeping (progressive) political correctness, socialism, Marxism, communism, tyranny, “world order”, and now, Sharia Law; and the illusion that we can get “free” things from the government – have triumphed over freedom, liberty, individualism, fiscal responsibility, common sense, reason, The Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights, and the Constitution of the United States of America.

Kemble Johnson - December 5, 2012

The Speaker has no guts to stand up to Obama. He needs to get up and walk out.

Scott Nicholas - December 5, 2012

Pathetic. Boehner needs to be replaced. There is no backbone in the Republicans anymore. They are going to get scorched in the media regardless of what they do. It is time to stand and fight and take it to the wall. They have the ability to shut the placed down. They should do it. The Democrats/socialists continually play hardball and we continually capitulate. If not now, when?

jenna hughes - December 5, 2012

I agree with Sam. Not surprised with Boehner. Am disappointed with him for not standing strong, kicking the tea party supporters off committees; am also disappointed with my representative, Petri. Like too many, he’s been in office too long (30 years) and is totally ineffective. If we’re going to lose with this group maybe it is time to start a real stick to and defend the Constitution party. Could not do any worse than this group .

Rex Talmage - December 5, 2012

It stinks to high heaven! The Republicans have no guts!
Get rid of Boehner and get us a LEADER!!

William Perry Wortman - December 5, 2012

The same group that gave us Bush 1 & 2, Dole, McCain, and Romney is still in charge. Dump Rove and other leadership that got us in this mess!!!

glenn logan - December 5, 2012

“Conservatives” need to stand by conservative principles. Let me suggest a video:
go to: davidhorowitztv.com and search Bill Whittle on what a real conservative/president candidate would do and say.
Maybe that’ll clear it up for those of you still in a fog.

Ilgattonero - December 5, 2012

My first reaction is we need a new Speaker of the House, if that’s possible. Boehner is ineffective, and spineless, willing to capitulate to garner feel good accolades from the Liberals. The Republican Party is afraid of its own shadow. We need a revamping of the party, vote out the RINOS. Where have all the men gone? I’m showing my age, remember when men were bold, risk takers, and unafraid. I want to believe those men are still around, but we can’t hear their voices.

glenn logan - December 5, 2012

I’m finished with Heritage and the Repub’s. We at the Tea Party are already organizing to eliminate Rino’s for 2014. The Repub’s only came about to eliminate slavery, and in doing so the Whigs were eliminated. Time to eliminate the Rino’s with some Tea!

RALPH VITALE - December 5, 2012

Cowardace and absolute lack of character and backbone. Anything more and I’d need my mouth washed out with soap.

Stan Newman - December 5, 2012

My post is basically the same as Sharon Minton’s Just when did social security and medicare become entitlements ? Ive paid into both since I was 14 years old and continue to have medicare deducted from my social security payments and pension. IF i were not a 100% disabled veteran I would still be paying for my prescriptions out of my own pocket.Our country is not the one I grew up in or fought for . As long as we allow a corrupt government we will continue to lose our freedom until there will be none.The present resident of our white house is the most corrupt of all.

Jim Spagnola - December 5, 2012

It is clear to me that the Republican party,and more specifically Boehner, have forgotten that they control the House because of us and our reaction to the Obama marxist agenda in the 2010 mid-terms. More to the point they have forgotten what it means to be an American. It is time for us to take the power from them once and for all. They should fear the public’s reaction to their policy, instead they do as they please and scoff at our principles. When we finally emerge from this debacle let us not forget who put us here and see that they are held accountable for their treasonous behavior. God bless America and God bless all of us who will be affected by these poor excuses for leaders.

Ori Hampel MD - December 5, 2012

Plan for House of Representatives Leadership:
1. Pass a bill to make PERMANENT the President Bush Era Tax rates for the 3rd and 4th highest income rates ONLY (joint filers earning $139,350-$212,300 and $69,000-$139,350), i.e prevent a tax increase on middle class only. Force the Senate and President Obama to allow the Bush Era Tax rates to expire and for them to raise taxes on the wealthy and small business owners.
2. Send the passed bill to the Senate
3. No Continuing Resolutions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4. Force President Obama to run the Federal Government within the confines of revenues collected, i.e. force the President to run the country within its bank account, just like any household.
5. Go on Christmas break so that there are NO MORE NEGOTIATIONS

John Controne - December 5, 2012

I’m a conservative who changed his registration to independent 8 or 9 years ago because the GOP leadership does not seem to have the ability to counter the socialist propaganda coming from the democRAT Party and it’s fellow travelers in the media. They do not seem to really believe in the concept of free enterprise and limited government. If they did, they wouldn’t seem so inept and Republican administrations like the Bushes wouldn’t have been Democrats Light.
I’ve contacted the Speaker and my advice was to send an extension of the current tax rates until June to the Senate because there isn’t enough time to produce good law and good results. If Obama and Reid turn it down, the onus of the fiscal cliff is on them. Six months to overhaul and simplify the tax code and fix SS and Medicare. Trouble is, I think they’d all mess it up anyway. We are a nation in decline.

john Ndlson - December 5, 2012

John Boehner should be thrown out of office. He is so stupid to think he will be liked for capitulation,he is as useless as tits on a boar.

Arlene Carle - December 5, 2012

Stop the posturing. Stop opening the liberal door an inch at a time. Stick with the bipartisan agreement to return to the Clinton tax structure with across the board spending cuts. Let the country see how wonderful the Clinton plan actually was.

Fred - December 5, 2012

The Republican Party makes this conservative wanna puke. Obama wants the economy to collapse and needs a reminder of the constitutional role of the House.

The first Obama smackdown is refuse to raise the debt ceiling, shut the damn government down, and leave town for a month.

Upon return, defund the EPA and the Department of Education and leave town for another month.

Replacing Boehner as Speaker would make me smile.

Rebecah Propst - December 5, 2012

Congress has an opportunity to introduce a budget that proves Republicans are fiscally responsible. If they do that, the Democrats in the Senate and White House would be shown to be responsible for the mess we’re in. It sounds like their response to the fiscal cliff is an attempt to negotiate a “bipartisan agreement.” That tactic can only strengthen the public’s media-driven view that Republicans got us into this mess and are doing nothing to get us out.

Mr. Lucas Brice - December 5, 2012

Ii have already changed my voter registration to “non-affiliated.” The Democrats are now Communists and the GOP is now the Democrat party of JFK or Hubert Humphrey. It’s time for a new party, because the GOP does not share the same values as I do. Does the RINO GOP think I’m going to keep supporting them because they aren’t Democrats? To paraphrase Reagan, I didn’t leave the Republican party, the Republican party left me.

June - December 5, 2012

I think Boehner is working hand in glove with Obama. No one could back down and not do anything in his position without meaning to. There have been many things where he could have tsken a stand but he didn’t and Obama just smiled. Why is /Boehner still in charge when he does nothing?

William - December 5, 2012

The speaker needs to resign he has not got the desire to
put this country on sound footing a guttless person

Bryon Harrelson - December 5, 2012

They need to offer 1 tax code,15% for each income with only a child tax-credit.

SunnyR - December 5, 2012

The Republican Party is committing political suicide. They will be doormats for Comrade Obummer and Company for the next 4 years unless they stick to their CONSERVATIVE principles! They are going to be ostracized by the DemocRATS no matter what they do, so why not stand fast and do not allow yourselves to be manipulated by the Megalomaniac in the WH?

We need STRONG Leadership in Congress and we don’t have it now. Boehner talks about Obozo not being a Leader, but neither is he. I am disgusted by the whole smelly deal. Maybe we really do need a THIRD PARTY!

SunnyR - December 5, 2012

Yes, Sharon, Social Security and Medicare ARE entitlement programs. The average person pays less than $140,0000. into Social Security but draws out well over $300.000. during their retirement years. There are not enough young people to support all the seniors who are living well into their 80’s these days. As you can imagine, this is unsustainable and these programs MUST be reformed or they won’t be available to the younger generation who are paying into the system today. SS is a giant Ponzi Scheme and soon will be bankrupt unless it is reformed drastically.

Gary Leddick - December 5, 2012

It is very disappointing what the Republican team has offered. They must be strong and force Obama into fixing entitlements and cutting all spending except defense NOW. I wrote Boehner and Amash in this regards. I sure hope others will do the same. Obama is using the same tactics as the UAW has used for years to hold the auto companies hostage with huge demands to get what they really want which was not the big demand, but yet too big to have profitable companies. So what happens GM and Chrysler go bankrupt. The USA will also go bankrupt with the Obama request and the poor Republican response. Get realistic Congress and Obama and fix our problems NOW. Obama will never keep a promise as he is not looking out for the good of the USA in any way, shape or form.. Romney and Ryan had a plan and that was to step forward and be counted with good solutions. Obama has a plan and that is spend, spend, spend. The well is dry. Be men and women of integrity and purpose and get going NOW to cut the $16T debt. Be strong. Do the right thing at the right time which is NOW.

ph - December 5, 2012

I’m a Heritage Member and a staunch conservative. But I’m also a believer in “You get what you pay for and your get what you vote for”. The American People voted for this guy and his policies so I say let’s go over the cliff. I thought we had learned our lesson over the past 4 years but obviously we have not.

John Smith - December 5, 2012

It looks like the GOP is too “chicken” to stand up the the Dems, probably from the fact that the Democrats won the election.

It would help if they would realize that this is exactly the reason why the Dems won in the first place.

Robert Calabro - December 5, 2012

The biggest mistake our country made after passing the 16th amendment was to use the tax code to influence human behavior. Human behavior should be influenced by good statemen and stateswmen, which we are in very short supply of. The public trust has been broken due to the fact that promises have been made only to have them broken after an election! Taxes are the price we pay for our liberty. By using the tax code to influence human behavior, the government has caused the misallocation of capital by picking winners and losers. We the people are the free market, not the government. The cynisism and resentment that people feel stems from the tax code. Over the years, we have witnessed people who have more financial means and political power than everyone else, carve out special preferences. The cynisism that people feel is cumulative. When people become cynical, they lose respect for the law. This does not enhance our republic, it diminishes it! As Ihave stated in another memo that I wrote, we spend 1 billion hours a year trying to figure out how much we owe in taxes. How many nuclear power plants can we build in the same amount of time. How much oil and natural gas can we get out of the ground and water over the same period of time. Our economy can only experience real growth through honest produvtivity gains. This can be achieved through a flat tax system on the Federal and state level. Regulations are a hidden tax. We have never found the right balance between regulations that are fair,, balanced by the need to grow our economy. A realistic goal for our economy is to double GDP from 15 Trillion to 30 Trillion in 18 years, assuming 4% a year in economic growth. Because of our debt load, I do not believe our economy can grow more than 4% a year. The other day, I wrote that we should have a 15% flat income tax for business and adopt the Simpson Bowles rates on the personal side. Deductions, exemptions and credits cost our country 1Trillion dollars a year! We owe China 1.3 Trillion dollars! Since when do we place our financial destiny in the hands of a communist country. This is un American! We are Americans and we can and we will do better. The time has arrived for us to take our country back, obey the constitution and try to live the values which are based on our Judeo Christian tradition. God has not abandoned us. We need to embrace him more. Thanksgiving is not once a year, it is 365 days a year. We should thank God for the blessings that he has bestowed on our country. frredom like life itself is fragile. It must be nourished and protected. od Bless all of you. god bless America. Robert Calabro.

June Pendleton - December 5, 2012

A complete sell-out-hello, total socialism-good bye, private sector economy and a promising future for US. Boehner should have refused to even talk with Obama under present conditions. What a sad commentary on Republican “leadership”

Kurt Prescott - December 5, 2012

This proposal will cause me to loose total faith in the GOP!

Neal Clacher - December 5, 2012

Boehner signaled his cave in status right after the election, “we are ready to be led”, we will put revenue on the table. He comes up with a way to stop social security COL increases by changing how they calculate things. The whole thin is smoke and mirrors and the mirrors are cracked. Let it go” off the cliff” and then go back in Jan. and write some bills to fox things, small short bills. Cliff is a man made joke on the public.

arthur garbarino - December 5, 2012

STOP SPENDING…………………………………………….

Mark McIntyre - December 5, 2012

Mr. Ward,
While I agree with the main context of your article, “…..the real source of our nation’s fiscal crisis: massive overspending, especially on rapidly-expanding entitlement programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security” I take strong exception to the commentary that you include as an entitlement the programs of Medicare and Social Security. I paid into these programs all of my life and for people like me this is not an entitlement it is a partial repayment of what I’ve paid. Please be more careful on how you frame the enormous overspending by the government.

Jerry Conrow - December 5, 2012

I feel that Romney became the designated loser after the first debate, now Boehner has become the designated rollover agent in the fiscal cliff affair and the National Republican establishment is the designator in both events.

Suzon Adam - December 5, 2012

Obama does not want this country to prosper. The Republicans need to face that fact; and the House should pass its proposal to LOWER ALL TAXES AND REDUCE SPENDING, thereby putting the responsibility onto the Senate and the President. If the House bill is defeated, the Democrates will be the ones responsible.
REPUBLICANS SHOULD NOT COMPROMISE. Boehner’s proposal is just the same old “Republicans give in; Democrats never give in.”

Bob Davis - December 5, 2012

I have contacted my Congressmen, the one’s who will listen – not Senator Durbin.

I have ask them not to support the House leadership proposal.

I personally doubt that there is fiscal cliff; and if so, let’s go over it, and then rebuild on an honorable basis.

This nation in in desperate need of “Country first, damn the torpedos”.

Frank J. Randazzo - December 5, 2012

totally disgusted with Boehner and the repub. proposal.Don’t they see by now you can compromise with obama. Why all the proposals with out any counters from the potus?why the dicthing of conservative members of the GOPpanel?AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST WHY CAPITULATE ON ANYTHING TOU WERE ELECTED TO DO IN 2010 AND 2012?

Nelson Whipple - December 5, 2012

Immediately, we need to initiate a Conservative Party of the USA. Waiting any longer will only reduce the chances of success. We are overburdened by a pile of so-called moderates who are slowly killing the GOP. Let us just go forth and finish it off.
Please go read Patrick Henry’ speech of March 23, 1775, to the House of Burgesses.

Rick Caston - December 5, 2012

Dear Mr. Speaker,
I cannot begin to tell you strongly enough just how disappointed, upset, and downright pissed off I am right now over your capitulation to Obama regarding the so-called fiscal cliff. I have come to understand that your words and your word, means absolutely NOTHING. It is very clear to me now that you, nor the rest of the so-called Republican leadership, give a damned about reining in spending, keeping taxes low, and repealing Obamacare. Your web site is a farce but more likely an out and out lie. The American people deserve better from their Speaker. They gave you a majority in the House for a reason and they, no, we, EXPECT YOU TO DO SOMETHING TO STOP OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS WITH IT. I am flabbergasted by your actions of late. When I think of you and the rest of the so-called Republican leadership only one word comes to my mind. And that word is COWARD. All of you, who we were counting on to hold the line on spending and push back hard against the Democrats and their progressive agenda, are despicable in my opinion. You have no courage and you certainly do not represent me and conservative Republicans like me. If I could find a way to remove you, Cantor, and the rest of the Republican cowards from your leadership roles and even out of office I would gladly so so. None of you deserve to be in your position and none of you deserve our support. I am asking you to do what you were elected to do and that is to do everything you can to return our country to fiscal sanity. Failure to do so means failure to do your duty as a representative and especially as Speaker. You sir should be ashamed of yourself. I warned most of my conservative friends that the Republican Party would suffer greatly if it’s current leadership is left in place. You and McConnell are pathetic examples of what true Republicans stand for but are fine examples of what the left stands for. There is not an ounce of difference between you, Reid and Pelosi. Fine company you keep Mr. Speaker. In closing I would ask that you reconsider your traitorous acts against your fellow Republicans and start standing up for our party’s principles and that of the conservative movement. Failure to do so will accelerate the demise of America and cement your place in history as the Speaker on who’s watch it was allowed to happen.

Richard Klenk - December 5, 2012

The established Republicans are a perfect reason to withhold any contributions to the party and support your “Tea Party” conservatives. Do not be FOOLED by a “RHINO” republican!!

Dick Petrie - December 5, 2012

The GOP has let Obama out maneuver them, out think them and prempt them at every turn by being afraid they will do something to weaken the system next time they get back into power. There will be no next time. The GOP needs to learn how to negotiate which never involves capitulate. You always negotiate from your power and they are not they are afraid of Obama thus Saul Alinsky wins.

Wilson Nix - December 5, 2012

Now is the time to form a third political party of “Conservative constutionalists”–bring together the Tea Party, Libertarians and other groups that will support our constitution. The current republican party has been/is so deeply ensconsched in “inner beltway” philosophy that you can only tell them apart from the democrats by the letter after their name. There needs to be challenges to the disinformation the liberal mainstream media spews in support of democrat policy.
Unfortunately, Boehner’s caving is not very surprising, just very disappointing.

Jim Balfanz - December 5, 2012

Between now and November, 2014, we need to send a message to the “Establishment” in the GOP. Frankly, hind sight is 20 – 20 as the saying goes and it is now clear that the GOP establishment is merely a “Democratic -lite” group of mealey mouthed – brain dead – wishy washy politicians, who are only interested in staying in office and in D.C. where they can attend the party circuit. The GOP leadership has removed some of the BEST CONSERVATIVES from key committee positions and to me that is the BEST evidence that they have been taking our $$$$ and laughing at us behind our backs – since they “survived” the days of Ronald Reagan. The establishment back then did not agree with Reagan, but fell in line during his term(s) as Prez, but then some worked behind the scenes to hurt the conservative agenda during those years. They certainly have done VERY LITTLE since those years to actually further the Conservative agenda – of smaller government, fewer taxes, LESS SPENDING, and work towards a BALANCED BUDGET. So, please forgive me for not supporting a group of “TRAITORS” who have abandoned us in OUR time of need. I have zero intention of supporting the GOP RINOS – aka “useful idiots” any longer. I will support INDIVIDUALS who have demonstrated via their past actions that they are conservative, but will no longer send a penny to the GOP.

Franklin Miller - December 5, 2012

Boths side are not serious about making drastic cuts
in Federal massive overspending. Corruption in Congress is at the point where anything is no longer possible. Party first and the hell with the USA. Perhaps in time the voters will figure this out. And take an interest in their nation instead of TV and sports.

Denny Converse - December 5, 2012

I wished I could be more optimistic, but the Republicans continue to make the same mistake every time trying to negotiate with the Dems. Pass the budget only you can pass, don’t increase the debt limit on any circumstances, but show some backbone against these clowns and we’ll support the ones that do so.

Dwight Axtell - December 5, 2012

Republican insiders are kicking the can down the road and eventually it will really go over the cliff! Democraps refuse to scale back entitlements, not because they are “the party that cares about the little guy” (TOTAL BS) but because they are buying votes. And, in the process, doing a huge disservice to the little guy because they are turning him into an indentured servant to the State! They know that, as WF Buckley put it, if you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul’s support! Figure it out voters!!! Incompetence at the top starts with you!!!

william laurie - December 5, 2012

This clearly high lights the lack of leadership in the Republican Party and allows the Democrats freedom to press their agenda. We need new leadership in the Republican Party, lets start by replacing Boehner.

fred hodges - December 5, 2012

I think the RINO’s in Congress (& the Speaker is one) don’t have the courage to address our fiscal problems in any meaningful manner. They want to continue spending as much as the Demo/Socialist do.

joe - December 5, 2012

Republicans suffer from fearfull,feckless and uninspiring leadership. It is time for all republicans to jump ship and support Tea Party,ATR and 3rd party candidates. If 3rd party candidates cannot win we would be no worse off would we? Republicans are traitors to Americans and our Constitution. Joe

Larry Ericsson - December 5, 2012

I agree with Kristine Cevasco. It will be politically hard to do but we MUST reduce Federal government spending and power. There are many sensible ways to do so but few are willing to open their eyes and think outside the self-interest box. Re-read the Federalist papers, etc. along with George Washington’s Farewell address for some good insights of original intent. What men value are not rights but privileges. Mencken

Bob Biggs - December 5, 2012

Here is the text of a fax I sent to Speaker Boehner and my Representative, John Kline, yesterday:

ATTN: The Honorable John Boehner

This is to confirm and elaborate upon the email I sent you several days ago.

DO NOT CAVE to President Obama’s totally unreasonable demands! We have a SPENDING problem, NOT a revenue problem. Increasing revenue will only enable more spending which is the last thing we need. President Obama has not offered a single, serious cut to spending (like entitlements) that will impact our enormous deficits and debt. The very first order of business is to reduce spending.

Therefore, I recommend that, while you await President Obama’s counter offer (don’t hold your breath), the House pass an extension of ALL the Bush tax cuts. If the Senate fails to pass it, that will be a failure by the Democrats to protect middle class Americans. Should the Senate pass the House bill and President Obama veto it, even a more striking failure by Democrats.

If the House does not stand strong on this vital issue, I fear the Republican party will fade into the sunset. DO NOT CAVE!

Thank you.

Sincerely,

cc: The Honorable John Kline (202) 225-2595

BACCEGA - December 5, 2012

Do not refer to Social Security as an entitlement,ever. I believe his proposal is a sell-out. The republicans should place the blame on the president and let the average citizen know. It was his socialistic policies that brought to this point!

J.Guidry - December 5, 2012

This latest move by the GOP “leadership” proves that those “leaders” are spineless. I am done with them. The GOP needs to get leaders with some guts to run them in House and the Senate. It ain’t the current crop.

Tom Russell - December 5, 2012

Sucks!!!

andy mitchell - December 5, 2012

What happened to the 100 billion in cuts we were promised 2 years ago?
Why won’t they defund Obamacare?
The “leadership” team all need to resign.

Chris Devereaux - December 5, 2012

If in fact it is just a action to avoid the “cliff” for now I suppose it would be acceptable. However, the congress needs to address the entitlement programs as soon as possible after the new year and the all parties must accept the fact we simply cannot afford to let these programs go unchecked. Besides the fact that Social Security is not an entitlement program. It is a program where employers and employees contributed to the system so they would have something when they retire. Retirement programs from employers didn’t work because all they do is declare bankruptcy and get out of their pension obligations leaving long term retired employees without benefits. We also need to address the welfare system and clamp down on misuse. Too many people get benefits who could work…yes even service jobs…to help pay Social Security.

doug sauls - December 5, 2012

Did we say “Please”

Dale Bessell - December 5, 2012

Why don’t the Republicans send their budget proposal to the Senate-again, and then call a national press conference to explain to the American people that the Senate, aka Harry Reid, refuses to even debate their proposal!?
The only way to cut spending, it appears is to go over the cliff and make it known that the President’s intransigence is the reason. Boehner needs to go! Where are Cantor and Ryan when we need their voices?

Ken Williams RN - December 5, 2012

I think specifics of tax revenues should NOT be passed or ‘moved’ until LARGE, detailed spending cuts are passed and signed by Obama. Remember the history.
Perhaps something like 10% across the board for non-military would be a good starter.

Patricia Mohrman - December 5, 2012

If the Republicans wonder why they are losing their support it is because they always cave on their conservative principles. I feel I have no party to represent me now. The Republicans fight with white gloves while the Dems use stilettos and always outsmart Conservatives and stab us in the back. The Republicans need to learn how to communicate with the common man. They phrase things that sound elitist and above the common man by their choice of words. They can never sell conservatism because they don’t explain it on most peoples level.
I think we should go off the financial cliff. Then more people would have to pay their fair share of taxes, we go into a recession, suffer for our excessive spending, we recover and have a better economy. But past history shows the Republicans don’t have the backbone to stand up for a vicious fight. They always back down and are losing support because if it.

Tom Costello - December 5, 2012

Limited government and personal responsibility, which this nation was founded on are the only sure guide to a resurgent economy and renewed greatness. We must never stop fighting for these principles.RNC and our elected Republicans better take note. Why did we vote them in ,TO SUPPORT US!

Ed Webster - December 5, 2012

As has been said, this is preemptive surrender before the Republicans have even attempted to make the case that Pres. Obama has been a baldfaced liar from the beginning (Aug 2011). The facts are there: the “rich” already pay most Fed. income taxes; their % and totals actually increased w/ Bush tax cutsDictators only; Obama is motivated by animus not concern for the middle class, and the rest. Dictators only become more brazen when appeased.

Bonnie Anderson - December 5, 2012

I think the whole thing is a red herring. Neither side wants to address the real issues because neither side will call what’s going on by it’s real name. Advoidence and power grabbing. We have so many major problems in this country that need to be addressed by real people not empty suites. The majority of “suites” in Washington are empty and only interested in their own agendas. They have no concept of the real world and how close we are to anarchy. A rude awakening is headed our way and I’m really fearful for this country and it’s ability to stay free. At the very least we are enslaved to a monster debt and will be for a long time to come. The list of major problems is very extensive. God help us. But, why should He? We never learn! We have to change out congress in 2014 or we may not get the chance to vote a change. Then, we have to stay on top of the newly elected to address the problems in a Constitutional way! And not a revised Constitution to reflect Socialism or Communism.

Bob - December 5, 2012

In some ways I have a bit of sympathy for the position Boehner is in…he has to govern. Of course I don’t necessarily agree with the elimination of deductions, the “broadening of the base” so to speak…but then again, wasn’t that the position of Mr. Romney?

Romney also would have cut spending, though, and this is where perhaps the GOP proposal falls short.

Is there a specific plan the Heritage can suggest to the GOP?

We need to treat Obama like the Democrats treated Bush in the post-2004 election…he had a similar percentage of popular vote victory…so let’s give him the same kind of treatment.

Sharon Jenicek - December 5, 2012

Without real fiscal reform, the Republicans are not helping Americans any more than the Democrats. Where are the representatives that should be supporting the people of the United States who truly believe in working for a living and in properiety? There are millions of us out here just waiting for strong leadership to take us back to the America that our Founding Fathers created and we so deeply desire to have for our children and grandchildren. Stand strong and reform these sorry entitlements. Get people working. They will feel better about themselves and we as a Nation will be all the better for it!

Greg Bendis - December 5, 2012

Republicans are stupid and spineless.

Joseph Pasquarella - December 5, 2012

Re: Fraser & Foster analysis —
AMEN !
Why does the current Republican leadership echo traditional democrat positions ? While my attitude and position remains conservative they vacillate like a flag in a strong wind.
After a lengthy “time off” from the Republican Party I re-joined to participate in the Republican Primary to nominate Marco Rubio , my intent now is to “withdraw” from this now spineless political party and register as a Conservative Party member !

Susan Petrarca - December 5, 2012

While “a dud,” this proposal insulates the GOP from accusations that they’ve not come up with anything or are not leaders. The ball is now firmly and squarely in the President’s court, and if we go off the cliff it will be his doing. Look, we’re never going to get “good economics” from an ideological Marxist.
At this point, however, the Republicans need to 1)reiterate the mandate that MORE THAN HALF the country gave to them when they returned them to the House with a substantial majority; 2)hold firm on this offer, go no further; and 3)continue to sound REASONABLE and talk up GROWTH as the solution, not tax hikes. I believe the president IS prepared to cliff dive if he doesn’t get 100% of his demands, and he is making a SERIOUS mistake in believing that the public won’t come to blame him and the Democrats for higher taxes and stalled growth.

Jim Knabb - December 5, 2012

The republicans need to understand, make the liberals and progressives in BOTH parties understand, if this was a business it would be shut down because there is way too much spending and there will never be enough revenue to meet the bottom line. Stop sacrificing principles for the sake of compromise. Obama and his ilk will never be satisfied with just “taxing the rich” because they know more $ are needed to fund all of their constituents demands. Go completely to Conservative principles. They work every time they are tried. Boehner needs to realize he will be demonized no matter what he does, so he needs to do the right thing NOW, take a stand NOW – “you shall not pass” – there is everything to gain if he does…..and unfortunately, everything to lose if he caves.

Donald B. Dinger - December 5, 2012

Mr. Boehner is a failure as leader. He should be removed and replaced with a conservative. His actions to remove conservatives from Committees is inexcusable. We need cuts, not tax increases.

Peter M. Page - December 5, 2012

It seems we are ever disappointed in Republicans in Congress. They just don’t have the spine to lead. They should put forth a plan in the form of a bill with explicit spending cuts, and tax reforms, publicize it widely and walk away from it.

Ann Stevens - December 5, 2012

You are dead right!

Robert Mikitka - December 5, 2012

Finally the republicans are getting some sense to what they need to do: work with the democrats and President O’Bama on doing the right thing. The Heritage’s arguments against any tax rate increase are so poor and inaccurate, really senseless and wrong.

Linda - December 5, 2012

Weshould fight the democrats on everything. Don’t give them an inch. We will stand behind you.

Robert Gaines - December 5, 2012

It is impossible to “negotiate” in good faith with this crew leftist ideologue Democrats. In my opinion, they are approaching this with three objectives: 1) Destroy the Republican Party by intimidating their leaders, dividing their membership and forcing them to capitulate 2) setting up the Republicans for a deal which they have nointention of abiding by, as we have seen with other so-called deals, and 3) Playing a polictical game of setting up the Republicans to take the fall, by allowing us to go over the fiscal cliff and controlling the story through their mainstream media friends who will blame the whole mess on the Republicans for allowing this to happen so they could protect the rich, which is total nonsense, but will sell well politically. The Republican need to get articulate young conservative leaders who will get out front and stand up for this country and its economy and refine the message so America gets it!. Unless it does that, it lose the pr battle and never be able to fight back.

Tommy & Kathryn Carter - December 5, 2012

For John Boehner and those in the house who think as he does:
It is not your job to play ball with Obama. It is your job to stop the ball. Work with Paul Ryan, who at least knows how to cut a budget. if the Senate and Obama object, pass an even more strenuous budget. If the Ryan budget would have been passed when it was presented, this country would not be in danger of going over the fiscal cliff. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT.
Tommy and Kathryn Carter

David - December 5, 2012

Speaker Boehner would probably describe his position as “pragmatic.” I think the American people would best describe it as weak and a capitulation. As the Democrats know and the Republicans are slow to learn, strength and resolve are respected, not weakness shown by backing down from your principles. The Grand Ole Party should retire from the fight and select new leadership that has courage to stand up based on PRINCIPLES to an out-of-control Senate and President.

rwineland2 - December 5, 2012

Boehner gives lip service to caring about the country but his actions are those of a typical congressional “good old boy” club member. His self importance is reduced by the damage he and others like him do to the country. He better know or start learning Chinese so he can say the right phrase as he bows to his superiors and his club becomes as irrelevant as the Greek government. I haven’t given a cent to the Republican Party in years – only to specific candidates. Boehner’s weekend comments about fiscal policy were as misleading as Susan Rice’s were about Libya.

Lawrence Medow - December 5, 2012

We do not have a spending problem, we do not have a tax problem. We have a REPUBLICAN problem. They are nothing more than a rubber stamp for the Dems. If you put all the Republican establishment in a room with Dems, there would not be a dime’s difference. They talk a lot up front to get contributions, but then the first thing they do is cave in. I am ready to give up on the Party. How do we get them to understand what is happening? It’s no wonder we are losing!

June S. - December 5, 2012

I agree word for word with Mr. Posey’s comments, and would add one more….fight for two term limits! I also think there are too many Republicans in Congress who are not conservative enough to fight for the principles the Constitution gives us! Additionally, give me more Tea Party winners and a reduction in government employees!

Jimmi Hayden - December 5, 2012

…Boehner has to go,..We need someone in charge with actual ‘Nads’, preferably Brass…!!!

gerald stadler - December 5, 2012

Read the WSJ “The Budget Baseline Con”. Sums up what’s really wrong with Washington.
It will not make any difference what the republicans do or don’ do we are going off the cliff. That’s what the president wants. The middle class is the pot of gold, no the rich.

jo - December 5, 2012

spending cuts must be part of any proposals.
Obama wants to destroy this country and he has a blank
check.

Cora Lea Heft - December 5, 2012

The Republicans are leaving the voters that have fought so hard these past years to save our Constitution. I really think that maybe a third party is the only solution. The senior Reprsentatives are so entrenched in the power grab in Washington that they have lost us the last two elections with their “poor choices” A pox on them all. Speaker Boehner is all talk and no bite even when he has the bulk of the party pleading with him to do what is right. Time for a change in Speakership.

Mark Wood - December 5, 2012

Wish republicans were LESS interested in being liked and more concerned about being RIGHT! AND EXPLAIN WHY!

Matthew Halbach - December 5, 2012

I’m more than willing to go over the cliff if Obama will not reduce Federal spending. I will pay more in taxes and do what ever it takes to get spending reduced and stop the debt ceiling from getting raised. I do not want my kids or grandson to have to pay for “baby boomer” costs.

Margaret Rocheleau - December 5, 2012

Surrender. Behner must be replaced as speaker of the House.

Barbara Clark - December 5, 2012

I agree with Fred Posey: Stop being nice. Get some guts. Tell it like it is. Stand tall on concervative principles. Smaller government, less spending, no tax increases. Don’t fall for the lies and straw man stuff. Obama is no leader for America the Beautiful. Stop being a push-over. Wake-up. Obama wants the coutry to go over the fical cliff . It is clear He doesn’t like America the way it was ment to be by virtue of the U. S. Constitution. Don’t think giving him a little bit will statisfy him. He will never be satisfied until America is socialist and he or some other tyrannt is leading it. Let’s go over the cliff and let Obama be known as the President that neraly ruined America. We can come back if we can just get rid of Obama and his cronies.

Paul Wilson - December 5, 2012

Disgusting and a total sell out of the American people. When will real patriots ‘do what is good for the country’? Boehner is a worm. A worm without guts or backbone. He is no leader. I cannot support the Republican party any more. The leadership actions seem beyond absurd.
It seems like the Republican party is close to dissolving. I do not know who they are anymore.

john haugh - December 5, 2012

tell the republicans to pass a bill in the house to extend tax cuts for everyone….give it to obama and walk away…we need to start showing some balls…get our message to the schools, have you seen the video by the teachers union ? where is our sides outrage..wake up

Roland Ilsen - December 5, 2012

Yes, “going over the fiscal cliff” is definitely desirable:

1. Increased taxes should be called “the restoration of Clinton taxes” and “Obamacae tax.” Let the Democrats take the blame for it.

2. The restoration of Clinton taxes will have the highly beneficial effect in that many who do not pay taxes now will have to pay. We can not have a society where the higher earner strata are in involuntary servitude to non-payers because there is no penalty for the majority of non-payers in increasing taxes. Increasing the tax base is the best resistance against increasing taxes generally. Let everybody have some skin in the game.

3. Taxing the rich will produce just a fraction (8%) of what is needed to balance the budget. Taxing the middle class as well will produced about 25%. Democrats should be reminded that when the Bush tax cut was passed, it was called “tax cut for the rich” and we were told that the middle class would get nothing. Now letting the middle class keep this “nothing” has become so important. The fact is that the middle class is the one with the most money.

4. The recession hat will most probably result will permit the question “How do you like the effects of all these Democratic taxes?”

Debbie Sims - December 5, 2012

To be honest, I feel like I am giving up and feel hopeless ever since Obama was re-elected. What can I do, what can the American people do? All I hear is the bad news, and it seems like there are no solutions being offered to give us hope. It seems our elected parties are deaf to us.

Dud Cunningham - December 5, 2012

The Conservative Doctrine is very explicit and they proclaim to be conservative. The President has enough to cure these problems, Beginning with a reduction in spending. What we need now is for the members of Congress and the White House to start conducting the “people;s business” and stop the posturing. Get to work! It’s not important who gets the credit, but it is important that they get the “people’s” business completed —-NOW!!! Speaker Boehner and the President must establish some common ground and then work out the details. Time to get on with it!!

Franz Neubrecht - December 5, 2012

The fiscal cliff is an artificial scam to cause histeria among the electorate. Whatever temp measure to avoid the fiscal problems by 12/31 should be put in place and a moritorium enacted that both Dems and Repubs to get together to hammer out a solution to this tax and spend mentality. Every day past 120 days should tax the Congresspersons at a percent of their salary daily until a common solution is attained. This is called leadership.

Joseph Seher - December 5, 2012

Fiscal Cliff?! This is not worth the effort. The press will disparage conservatives no matter what is done. The real fiscal cliff is the $85Trillion (at net present value) of entitlements that no one talks about. These entitlements expand at a rate that would exceed the tax revenue generated by the upper fifty percent of income earners if they were all taxed at 100% of their income. We need to deal with the REAL FISCAL CLIFF.

Jacques Bakke - December 5, 2012

Must there be a revolution to get the message across to Boehner? He has removed some strong voices, which speak for the majority of this country: No more taxes! Cut the spending and cut the funding of OBAMA care!
A Recession is rearing its ugly head over the horizon—Let it come, Obama doesn’t want it and the Republicans are going to get blame for it anyway.

Dean Newman - December 5, 2012

Surrender never feels good or productive. This one doesn’t either.

Jim Owens - December 5, 2012

De je vou, Boehner should know that the democrats
fail to follow through with spending cuts from the Reagan
years. It is way past time to reverse course, spending cuts before any talk of tax increases. If the dems agree to spending cuts first and then a tax on the millionaires only equal to cuts. We need to make a stand, it is time that being reasonable and common sense prevail. The speaker should listen to De Mint and get off his ego trip!

George E. Kimball - December 5, 2012

It seems that the fight, Speaker Boehner and the Republicans are in with this president’ is one that has zero upside for Conservatives. In the long run it is a losing fight no matter how it goes. Boehner should give the president his tax proposal minus, of course, his request for new spending and a give back on the debt limit control. That said attach a request for what “specific spending cuts” he is willing to agree on. The only way to make the president “own the economy” is to put it in his hands as requested. If he is wrong, the ability to really correct the path we are on, is in the hands of the Republicans. If he is right than we must accept this and strive to work with this person to make our Country and all it’s people proseperous as possible. The more we fight this president the stronger and bolder he becomes. This is a dishonest group of people in Washington today and they must be exposed by not only their words but also their actions.

Charles Watson - December 5, 2012

I will not vote for Mitch McConnel again. I will work to find a Tea Party Candidate, such as Rand Paul to represent me in the Senate.

John Kent - December 5, 2012

When will we see some real leadership in the republican party ( or democrat for that matter). What an unmitigated mess!!! Fools and cvowards. Better to go off the cliff and accept the ramifications!!

deb droke - December 5, 2012

Speaker Boehner has to go! After 52 surveys sent to me on behalf of the speaker addressing the Republican agenda, balancing the budget and reducing the deficit were the most important issues not raising taxes! Speaker Boehner forgets that taxes are going up with obamacare already. Stop the irresponsible spending, waste and fraud and maybe I might be more interested in hearing that tax increases are needed.

Joseph - December 5, 2012

Totally disgusted with the Republican Party. It seems that nobody in the Republican Party today has a back bone to stand up to the Democrats. Totally fed up with the whole bunch! We are going to hell in a hand basket.
Joe Torre

Darryl Springs - December 5, 2012

I agree with your analysis. Unless we have the courage to point out the defects of the Obama offer, and counter with a hard-hitting proposal, we are doomed. Who are the financial and economic consultants advising the House Republicans? Sounds like the same bunch of tired old Republican Congressmen who really don’t understand the PROBLEM (unrestrained spending) and therefore can’t offer a coherent solution! Same old hogwash. In principle I agree with Fred Posey’s comments. We are playing into Obama’s hand and will be trapped and villified for it if we do not make a reasoned and strong proposal for cutting spending NOW!

Don Harris - December 5, 2012

To put it mildly, I am disgusted with the Republicans offering “tax” changes before a major spending cut is even offered. This isn’t negotiating, it is giving up without a fight. They must stand firm for spending cuts first and resist any tax increases, period.

David Jones - December 5, 2012

I completely agree that bigger spending cuts and real entitlement reforms are needed to fix this spending problem and put our fiscal house back in order. However, I think that people are overcriticizing this proposal. If I understand the Republicans proposal correctly and if it is passed it would avert Taxmagedon by not allowing anyone’s tax rates to rise regardless of what happens to the original Bush cuts. Furthermore some spending cuts are better than no spending cuts, and if they replace the military sequester cuts by cuts from other programs that would be a big deal. If passed the Republicans’ proposal would not change the problems of many businesses being taxed as individuals, tax code complexity, the base not being as broad as it should be, an outrageously high and prohibitive Corporate Income Tax, and Tax rates on individuals who create jobs being too high. It also does not eliminate the need for encouraging investment by either eliminating or significantly lowering the Capital Gains rate. Thus I think it is still very possible to do much more tax reform and lowering rates is still needed as part of that reform. Just because Republicans are not pushing for Entitlement Reform now does not mean that they cannot or will not push for lowering it later. However, the great tax increase and sequester cuts to our military will not happen any later; thus Republicans must work to avert those problems now. Besides it seems virtually impossible to lower tax rates with a Democratic Senate. However, the biggest flaw in the Republicans’ plan is that it increases the debt limit. Thus it will still cause us to borrow more money without even paying back hardly any of the money that we have already borrowed. If both partiesdon’t stop agreeing to borrow more money and refusing to repay significant portions of the debt ourinterest rates will sour, the bond market will abandon us, refuse to continue to buy our debt, and then we will fall off a real fiscal cliff that will be worse then Greece.

J L Stanley - December 5, 2012

Heritage’s headline characterization of “Capitulation” sums it up well. I’m totally disgusted with the Speaker and Republican Leadership; they get an F in negotiations. First, tomorrow is always tomorrow and it never happens, same can be said of federal spending cuts – they have not happened in the past nor did POTUS deliver on his promises and as he said it is immoral.

SPENDING CUTS first, NO to RAISING ANYONE’S TAXES FURTHER, taxes are already being raised with ObamaCare Tax. Little has been said of that and the impact it will have on the Middle Class.

Spending is totally out of control and must be curtailed or the country we love will be lost for our children. The Speaker needs to rise to the occasion for the sake of the nation or move aside.

Catherine Haley - December 6, 2012

I think the Republican proposal is pathetic. However, I don’t think it makes much difference what they propose. I’m convinced that Obama doesn’t want an agreement, since I believe he wants to go over the cliff and get the extra tax revenue, and blame the Republicans.
Then in a couple of months, he’ll come out with his proposal for “middle class tax cuts,” so he can be a hero.
I’m more concerned that he will ignore the Constitution and raise the debt ceiling by himself. Anyone who condemns this illegal action will be dismissed as a “racist.”
As a senior, I’m very concerned about losing the $5 million deduction on the death tax.
I like what Fred Posey had to say.

Sam Ekey - December 6, 2012

Any plan that does not start with and focus on spending is irresponsible. We must engage main street in the discussion of what we need from a federal government, not what the politicians want. The best government is local. We need to get the money out of Washington and keep it out.

Ann - December 6, 2012

I am extremely disappointed with Boehner and the Republican Party!!! Demand that we get our spending under control!

Denny Jensen - December 6, 2012

Fred Posey nailed it! I don’t understand why the republicans are so anxious to surrender.

Cecil Rives - December 6, 2012

It’s the SPENDING, stupid!

lCharles Wise - December 6, 2012

It is slow capitulation, what else is new under Boehner.

Elaine Gaines - December 6, 2012

Mr. Boehner is a traitor to his party and to our (former) ideals. It is time to phase out the Republican party and begin a Conservative or Constitutional Party which we can support.

Robert Steffensen - December 6, 2012

John Boehner…stop all cliff negotiations before you give away the farm! Republican House should pass and extension of the Bush tax cuts and go home for Christmas. i.e. let the Dems take the blame for going over the cliff! The smoke and mirrors around an imaginary budget is ridiculous.

Bob
Colonel USMC (retired)_

Warren Hoppmeyer - December 6, 2012

I have left a suggestion with Speaker Boehner’s office regarding the fiscal cliff issue and the national debt limit. I feel we are boxed in by the president and think I have a way out for now. In regard to the tax rate increase the president is so set on, agree to a bill which raises the rate on the 2%, as he so fondly calls them, and lock in the lower rates for all others. But at the same time, give a tax credit for the increase due to the Affordable Health Care Act thus negating most of the increase. He would then get his rate increase as he is so adamant to get.
On the subject of the debt limit, the Republicans need to repeatedly say we agree with what he said as senator and will stand firm with his position.
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.” …….. Senator Barack Obama
Every Republican needs to memorize this line and say it to the press every day. We need to box him in a corner.

Stan Bennett - December 6, 2012

Boehner should be removed from the Speaker position as soon as the new congress convenes in January. He is absolutely clueless as to what the people are demanding. He forgets that the people elected a majority CONSERVATIVE House, and that is what the people expect, stop the spending, stop the increases in National Debt and, for once in his life, stop caving. He’s an alcoholic and worthless.

phyllis talmadge - December 6, 2012

If the speaker is looking to raise taxes on the rich maybe he should start with those employeed in Washington. The employed in DC usually are more well heeled than the folk that have to live under the laws and regulations that are handed down from Washington and the employees in DC have better insight in how to avoid paying those taxes.

John A. Quayle - December 7, 2012

There is no sound reason for *EVER* raising the debt limit again! The fiscally responsible means of dealing with the problem is to cut spending to accommodate any additional expenditures.

Furthermore, by selling off federally-held (and unconstitutionally so) land, the total debt can be wiped out completely within just a couple of years.

Joseph K. - December 7, 2012

Disgustingly weak in the spine. With representation like this, I see very little difference bottom line between the Democrats and the Republicans. Hopefully this attitude is not endemic to the whole Republican Party, or we need a new one. Where are the representatives and senators with some intestinal fortitude or strong conservative values. No more RINOS. Get us some decent and accountable leadership, or get someone else who can verbalize our positions, and not be so chameleonlike.

L C Tudor - December 7, 2012

Is there any way that The Heritge Foundation can talk to the leaders in the House and stop them from going over the cliff. I am so disappointed with them. We need new leadership, sombody that has a backbone.

L C Tudor

William Cummins - December 7, 2012

The latest elections show how poorly the Republican party does in presenting its position and arguments to the people. Whether we like it or not, the President is clearly winning the public opinion pole and public opinion gets you elected. I am amazed at the lack of straight forward rebuttal of the Presidents responses. For example; “The upper 2% must pay more and pay at least as much as the Clinton tax rates”. Why isn’t Boehner explaining that the President already achieved that thru Obamacare and the 3.8% surcharge for wealthy Americans. Why are we not explaining to the people the “Laffer Curve” where there is a point where raising taxes lowers revenue. Why when Boehner proposes the increase in tax revenue ($800 billion) come from cutting loopholes and deductions(whether you agree or not) and the President puts it down by saying it is mathematically impossible do we not go to the people immediately and point out that a little over a year ago the President said himself that we should get $1.2 trillion in the same manner. You have Republican pundits pointing these things out but they are preaching to the choir. Our elected representatives need to go directly and immediately to the people with responses. We(Consevatives) clearly have better ideas and answers but the Liberals have the best Salesman and until we find better Salesmen in our ranks, we will continue to lose sales. We can only take a firm stand if we can sell it or are willing to let things go down the drain and say I told you so. Even then,we must be able to defend our position and to this point I do not see anyone capable of defending our position to the uninformed but starry eyed public.

Jerry Post - December 7, 2012

Another example illustrating the need for limited terms for all 535 !

Cathy Parsons - December 7, 2012

The GOP no longer has any principles or even a spine. When
the Republicans return to traditional values and stand steadfast
against those who want to destroy them, then perhaps I’ll consider
anything they have to say. Until then there is no difference
between Boehner and Reid, Pelosi or Obama; it’s just a matter of
degrees.

Holly Chapo - December 7, 2012

Boehner is a feckless coward who is besotted with the power
he now possesses as Speaker, a position he holds due in large part
to the Tea Party. How short his memory is. And how corrupted he has
become by that power. He seems more concerned about himself than
about the enormous fiscal challenges we face as a nation. During
the time of our founding, he would have been thrown out of the
Constitutional Convention as a useless nitwit. He doesn’t seem to
have one good idea about what to do and if a solid set of ideas
were presented to him, he would not recognize them. His
counter-proposal is an unmitigated disaster for the Republicans and
more so for Americans. All he’s doing is kicking the can down the
road – again. That road is just about at the end. Way to go bone
head Boehner!!

Howard Talley, III - December 7, 2012

When you let the opposition define the issue, you lose! I’m
so tired of hearing about the Bush tax-cuts expiring. What we will
have is the Obama tax increases. Read Orwell’s 1984. Our modern-day
‘Ministry of Truth’ (the media) has captured the conversation but
we are not yet totally toothless in that we still can disagree (at
least Boehner and his cronies can) without fear of imprisonment.
We’re not far away, though, from the point where we can’t. Why
negotiate? Let Obama propose and the Democratic Congress dispose.
Then go all out to define the terminology. And as the economy sinks
into recession/depression continue to remind the populace (we don’t
have MASSES in America!) that the Obama tax increases have caused
this. Be a broken record. Over and over and over again. It may not
work, but what’s the alternative? Capitulation?

William Siems - December 8, 2012

The GOP does more every year to drive me to the Libertarian
Party. Even when they’re in the majority, they govern like they are
still in the minority. I think they are more concerned with being
liked by the media – which is dumb because the media will never
like them the way they like the Dems. And I think the GOP and the
Boehner-types want to ensure they get invited to the right cocktail
parties along with the Dems. Current GOP leadership is ineffective,
if not distrustful of caving to the Dems most of the time. Down
with Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, Alexander – we need more Young
Turks like Ryan, Paul, Rubio, Artur Davis, Ron Johnson, Bachmann,
Thune or we are doomed. Not just the GOP – I mean the COUNTRY is
doomed. And we HAVE to vet our Senate and House candidates better
by running people who can walk and chew gum at the same time and
who can be prepared for the “gotcha” questions that they should
know are coming from the media. I can answer those questions and
espouse the Conservative line better than some of the stiffs the
GOP has run recently. No way the GOP should NOT have won the WH and
the Senate given the state of the nation today. They can snatch
defeat from the jaws of victory better than anyone I know, and I,
among many, are disgusted with them.

Richard Jackson - December 8, 2012

Speaker Boehner is just another Beltway politician. The
Republican leadership doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude or
statesmenship to take a hard stand. Those conservative Republicans
that do are punished by Boehner. What’s up with that? We seem to be
outflanked and out maneuvered at every turn by the Dems. I’m just
upping my dosage of Mylanta!

John Jennings - December 9, 2012

More evidence, if any were needed, that key elements of the
GOP, at all levels, are in cahoots with the Democrat leadership.
How many ineffectual ‘revolutions’ and ‘insurgencies’ must we have
before the truth sinks in? Once you get elected, you ‘join the
club’ – even if you ran as a fire-breathing small-govt
bomb-thrower. You henceforth have a personal interest in financing
bigger govt. It’s not quite the case that ‘we’re all progressives’
now. But 47% of us are freeloaders, and most of our elected reps
are progressives – overtly or tacitly. We are in no position to
reform entitlements, cut spending or otherwise ‘make tough
choices.’ Govt commitments must now follow their natural messy
course correction [aka bankruptcy and collapse], likely attended by
great social unrest. Prepare accordingly.

Jill Huggins - December 10, 2012

I think it is more important that the Republicans stop being cuckolded. How do they always seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place? America is screwed no matter what happens so stand up andfight for our principles.

Eina - December 11, 2012

The “Grand Old Party” is NOT grand! It is just OLD, INEPT, TRAITOROUS, UNAMERICAN, A HORROR TO INTEGRITY, LACKING IN STATESMANSHIP AND HONESTY,OUT OF TOUCH WITH US COMMONERS !
I will not give one copper to the republican party ever again! I supported true conservative, constitutional, men and women seeking election this past November and will contine to do so ( IF ) they don’t turn tail and run like a bunch of whipped pups when it comes to standing up for our constitution and “AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL”.

William Bell - December 14, 2012

I hope that this is just intended to give the appearance of being flexible, while awaiting the ultimate failure of negations. Otherwise, this marks the return of tepid mediocrity in the GOP. Unless there are at least dollar for dollar entitlement cuts, in specific programs, we need to go cliff diving!
What ever happened to passing a budget? For the last 4 years Congress has abdicated their responsibility to the nation to provide a budget for the Executive branch.

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